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Maelstrom wrote:

TradeMark wrote:why dont china people learn english, and join in this forum =)

Why dont we learn chinese and join theirs? Or for that matter, why did we not all learn swedish, so we could all talk to the SYs in their native language?

i dont know. should i know?

but if you didnt know, english is the main language for communicating between other countries :O

Das Bruce wrote:Because everyone speaks english behind your back.

Exactly.

Cool, now all we need is CJK ingame chatting so I can whisper secret messages to all my enemies.

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There are more ppl in the world who speak Chinese (natively) than English.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_la ... ers#Top_20

it doesnt really matter how many babies they have made there, english is used for communication world wide, not chinese.

Engrish is the common language on the internet, not english.

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According to Wikipedia native and secondary speakers of English combined may total up to 1.8 billion, which is more than Mandarin Chinese. However, it depends on what you define as an English speaker as the secondary population have varying skill levels. Mandarin Chinese still has the largest native population though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language
http://www.ehistling-pub.meotod.de/01_lec06.php#11

Relative wrote:According to Wikipedia native and secondary speakers of English combined may total up to 1.8 billion, which is more than Mandarin Chinese. However, it depends on what you define as an English speaker as the secondary population have varying skill levels. Mandarin Chinese still has the largest native population though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language
http://www.ehistling-pub.meotod.de/01_lec06.php#11

What are the exact stats for Mandarin Chinese? I know, at least in Hong Kong, Mandarin adaption is high, but not completely universal, probably in the area of 80% with some understanding and 40% with fluency. There are a plethora of other small dialects in china as well, although I'd really only be able to guess what percentage of the population represents them. I'm fairly sure Mandarin is only spoken within china as well, there is very very little internationalization of the language.

SwiftSpear wrote: There are a plethora of other small dialects in china as well, although I'd really only be able to guess what percentage of the population represents them. I'm fairly sure Mandarin is only spoken within china as well, there is very very little internationalization of the language.

No, Mandarin is the 'standard' spoken language. There are many, many regional dialects in China such as hokkien, teochew, hakka etc. are commonly used among their respective communities, but most of those are not taught formally (except Cantonese).

Mandarin is the 'official' Chinese language, and is used in all Chinese-language education regardless of location, and Chinese in general can converse both in Mandarin and the dialect of the community they come from.

How much difference is there between the dialects?

Das Bruce wrote:How much difference is there between the dialects?

Alot lol...

Manderin has more swishing sounds..

Cantonese has more of those up and done inntonations and usually this is the sterotypical sound that people make fun of.

Wolf-In-Exile wrote:

SwiftSpear wrote: There are a plethora of other small dialects in china as well, although I'd really only be able to guess what percentage of the population represents them. I'm fairly sure Mandarin is only spoken within china as well, there is very very little internationalization of the language.

No, Mandarin is the 'standard' spoken language. There are many, many regional dialects in China such as hokkien, teochew, hakka etc. are commonly used among their respective communities, but most of those are not taught formally (except Cantonese).

Mandarin is the 'official' Chinese language, and is used in all Chinese-language education regardless of location, and Chinese in general can converse both in Mandarin and the dialect of the community they come from.

Right. I'd almost say there's a direct correlation between how educated someone is, and how good their mandarin is.

According to wikipedia, there's a few chinese languages with over 100,000,000 native speakers... and a small handful with over 1,000,000.

As the second most spoken native language in the world, Spanish is my pick for alternative to English, Mandarin or Swedish. It's superior, easy to learn, fun to speak, and comes with freshly made tortillas. ¡Si se puede!

Das Bruce wrote:How much difference is there between the dialects?

They vary very greatly, in terms of oral pronounciation, and even within a region, there are sub-dialects. All also have their own slang, and sentence structures etc. varies across dialects.
So in essence, Mandarin is the 'lingua franca' among the diverse Chinese communities.
And even if some communities do not have a good grasp of Mandarin, the written characters are common to both.

these sheets are looking cool, is there such thing in eglish (or German) too?

Das Bruce wrote:How much difference is there between the dialects?

Enough to make linguists debate about which are dialects of Mandarin and which are separate languages.

The entire issue is of course political in China just as language/dialect/uneducated rabble-speak is a political issue in many countries, such as Italy.

Ok i'm ressurecting some old post.
honeyfox asked me a question that is related to this post:

"i have a question too. i and several members in our forum who named chaosch and cdyjn have joined the translation project of the springlobby, but i donno if this is finally out now?"

Is someone aware of this ?

This page says that Simplified Chinese is an available Springlobby language and that it's maintained by chaosch.