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Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 15:06
by clericvash
Uh what? We all know the TA mods aren't exactly legal since the models, names and side logos are not from this community.

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 23:52
by rattle
Which is why there is a reminder somewhere that you need to own a copy of TA in order to download games with OTA content or the base archive.

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 25 Jul 2008, 08:47
by Pressure Line
rattle wrote:Which is why there is a reminder somewhere that you need to own a copy of TA in order to download games with OTA content or the base archive.
http://spring.clan-sy.com/download.php wrote:Please note that by selecting the mods XTA or BA in the installer you are legally required to own the original total annihilation game.

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 29 Jul 2008, 10:11
by pharoph
lots of people dont get that. thats because ive never een it anywhere. someone told me. but i have OTA to bad i lost the missions disk T_T

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 29 Jul 2008, 10:16
by pharoph
clericvash wrote:Well you didn't say yours had a "tm" by it, i mean for the ta mods, since they all contain copyrighted content, people should be properly told about it.
wait can anybody tell me why is is illegal to download spring without OTA on the computer? tatel lighten up the idea alot.

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 29 Jul 2008, 10:33
by Hoi
the *a mods are illegal, cuz they depend on otacontent.sdz, its legally requierd that you have ota if you want to use the content

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 29 Jul 2008, 10:39
by Pressure Line
pharoph wrote:
clericvash wrote:Well you didn't say yours had a "tm" by it, i mean for the ta mods, since they all contain copyrighted content, people should be properly told about it.
wait can anybody tell me why is is illegal to download spring without OTA on the computer? tatel lighten up the idea alot.
not reqired to have it on their pc, only to own a copy, like my original 1997 set (still have the box ^_^)

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 29 Jul 2008, 10:41
by Hoi
me too, but i lost the missions cd ^^

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 29 Jul 2008, 12:02
by pharoph
ME TO!

skirmishes are so much fun!

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 29 Jul 2008, 12:05
by Hoi
but missions are fun too! but i would prefer skirmish above missions,also becaus you cant do multiplayer without cd1

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 11:46
by KDR_11k
Actually it's false, it doesn't matter if you own OTA or not. Uploading any OTA deriative is copyright infringement. Downloading depends on the laws in your country, some ban downloading too, some don't.

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 15:14
by LordMatt
I don't think that's really true. That would suggest that modding any game and uploading your content is copyright infringement and Cavedog went out of its way to help modders, who weren't doing something very different from spring's modders.

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 15:21
by [Krogoth86]
I think KDR meant that we actually upload Cavedog stuff with our TA mods and not just what we've done ourselves while for mods in general you just upload what you want to add to the original source excluding what came with the game you mod...

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 20:42
by Hoi
what about asking the company that owns ta making it abandonware/ selling or giving us the licence?

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 21:09
by Felix the Cat
Hoi wrote:what about asking the company that owns ta making it abandonware/ selling or giving us the licence?
Whee, this again.

Technically I think it would stand up in court as abandoned IP, as Atari claimed not to own the TA IP in a communication with one of our community members. In any case, if Atari isn't aware that they own the IP, they probably aren't too concerned with enforcing their rights :P

Supposedly the TA IP was optioned to some Korean company, though.

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 12:10
by Das Bruce
Hoi wrote:what about asking the company that owns ta making it abandonware/ selling or giving us the licence?
MTR

You spin me right round baby, right round, like a record baby, right round...

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 12:54
by KDR_11k
LordMatt wrote:I don't think that's really true. That would suggest that modding any game and uploading your content is copyright infringement and Cavedog went out of its way to help modders, who weren't doing something very different from spring's modders.
It is by default, some games have EULAs that permit modding, others include the license permitting mods into the SDK or something.

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 22:20
by tombom
I'd question whether certain other mods legality for general use is any better, actually.

Re: Inapropriate wiki edit.

Posted: 04 Aug 2008, 12:03
by Neddie
neddiedrow wrote:The funniest thing is that everything else has a legal status as well.
tombom wrote:I'd question whether certain other mods legality for general use is any better, actually.