Re: Return of Gilded Age?
Posted: 30 Jun 2008, 18:37
Socialism is a problem however You cant really directly compare capitalism and socialism first because it is already intermixed in certain ways and both had influanced the other in many countries.
Also capitalism and socialism should be rated by different standards.
They aspire to different ideals imo.Not completly different but somewhat.
Capitalism is problematic because countries that place strong restrictions on work hours and make companies give more services to their workers would have to encourage corporations hugely in other areas since golbal corporations can set their bases where they feel it will cost them less per worker thus moving from placves where too much is demanded from them.
In a way the global market forces countries to act in a certain way otherwise they face stagnation.
And what and how does a pyramid like huge and extremly rich organizations effects our society?
I mean should a person's first and most important thing be his job?
In a corporation even the fair being of a worker is calculated and improved only if it boosts effeceincy and in the way the worker will be swallowed by his job even more.They give u a cellphoe a beeper a laptop and in return you offer them your time with your family at home when you have to be ina half wqorking state of picking up phone calls and solving work related problems at home.
A corporation is basicly middle ages feudalism.
But corporations can only be fought off as far as i see it using international laws for workers and laws to supress the huge pars between top and buttom.
The entire loss of control over services like education and health is disasterous and contributes greatly to the differances between classes.
The question isnt,if one should get more and have more cause he is actually more productive and less lazy than another ,the question is should the kids of the lazy guy be punished if their parants slacked of and were ineffeceint even with a minimum time that they had to spend on working.
That is the basic problem of giving workers a lot of power,some will not do their job effeciently knowing they wont get fired for it.
but should their kids be punished for it by having to go to shitty public schools while rich kids have the advantages of a private school?
Same wiht healthcare.
Also to become a ceo of a major corporation you absolutly must devote your life to work and than forced to pay for those that didnt.
But cant we as a society try and maybe think of better things to strive for than climbing the career ladder and enslaving ourlives in the process?
Also capitalism and socialism should be rated by different standards.
They aspire to different ideals imo.Not completly different but somewhat.
Capitalism is problematic because countries that place strong restrictions on work hours and make companies give more services to their workers would have to encourage corporations hugely in other areas since golbal corporations can set their bases where they feel it will cost them less per worker thus moving from placves where too much is demanded from them.
In a way the global market forces countries to act in a certain way otherwise they face stagnation.
And what and how does a pyramid like huge and extremly rich organizations effects our society?
I mean should a person's first and most important thing be his job?
In a corporation even the fair being of a worker is calculated and improved only if it boosts effeceincy and in the way the worker will be swallowed by his job even more.They give u a cellphoe a beeper a laptop and in return you offer them your time with your family at home when you have to be ina half wqorking state of picking up phone calls and solving work related problems at home.
A corporation is basicly middle ages feudalism.
But corporations can only be fought off as far as i see it using international laws for workers and laws to supress the huge pars between top and buttom.
The entire loss of control over services like education and health is disasterous and contributes greatly to the differances between classes.
The question isnt,if one should get more and have more cause he is actually more productive and less lazy than another ,the question is should the kids of the lazy guy be punished if their parants slacked of and were ineffeceint even with a minimum time that they had to spend on working.
That is the basic problem of giving workers a lot of power,some will not do their job effeciently knowing they wont get fired for it.
but should their kids be punished for it by having to go to shitty public schools while rich kids have the advantages of a private school?
Same wiht healthcare.
Also to become a ceo of a major corporation you absolutly must devote your life to work and than forced to pay for those that didnt.
But cant we as a society try and maybe think of better things to strive for than climbing the career ladder and enslaving ourlives in the process?