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Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 08 May 2008, 16:27
by SwiftSpear
Well... I don't think I'd restrict it to 1 account only... The idea is to make it so you can smurf once in a while if you want, but you can't continuously use smurfing to escape a bad reputation, and thus you can't habitually use it to grief other players.
Det: some users have so many accounts it's difficult for moderators to quickly and easily smurf check. Although, once again, uber server will have more powerful query tools for moderators, as well as user features for ban by IP.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 08 May 2008, 16:29
by SwiftSpear
Pxtl wrote:So if I live with anybody else who also plays spring, they're stuck with my account?
How about no.
Uberserver can track local IP addresses as well. So it's easy to create exception cases for IP addresses that are legitimately shared by many users.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 08 May 2008, 17:19
by Gota
That invites so many problems.. people would haveto request things and there would be even mor echaos and admin harass.
Email is an ok idea,i still think there should be a guest mod and it should be default.
Tracking by ip is a fail idea.The more complicated youl make it all the more people just wont bother..
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 08 May 2008, 17:24
by Regret
SwiftSpear wrote:can't continuously use smurfing to escape a bad reputation, and thus you can't habitually use it to grief other players.
Welcome to the internets, this is a waste of time. You
can't stop people from being stupid.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 08 May 2008, 21:35
by KDR_11k
I'd at least like a feature to track renames.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 08 May 2008, 22:03
by Peet
KDR_11k wrote:I'd at least like a feature to track renames.
The server events page on the web interface does this, unfortunately it seems to be down atm.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 08 May 2008, 22:11
by Tribulexrenamed
No thank you.
Do Not Want.
I already stole someone's account, and I Do Not Want them to have it back.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 09 May 2008, 00:25
by malric
Forboding Angel wrote:This isn't about evading bans. It's about making it tougher for ppl that want to register half a billion accounts one right after another.
I think just requiring a unique email per account and email verification would be enough to slow them down considerably.
Also, if we are talking about stupid people, it could be implemented in the lobby - not to allow many account creations per session.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 09 May 2008, 19:35
by reivanen
Smurfing is just total fail
Not for the smurf, no he enjoys it when he gets to beat people. But for the rest of the gamers trying to balance a game and then there's a two-stripe smurf of someone who has played +1000hrs and is incredibly talented. Surely the game will be interesting.. no.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 09 May 2008, 20:06
by malric
This is true, but there is also a problem if you play more mods. I play usually XTA but from time to time, if I want a fast game I play BA or another mod if available. Now, I got a pretty high rank that will ruin the balance because I am not used with the specific mod.
So, if you talk about balance we have 2 problems: having the rank lower than it should be (smurf) and having the rank higher than it should be.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 10 May 2008, 00:14
by LordMatt
A lot of expert players don't smurf with low ranked accounts. In fact, getting good games with low ranked accounts is much harder than with high ranked ones.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 10 May 2008, 22:00
by Neddie
Not to mention not all people smurf to win.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 10 May 2008, 22:24
by LordMatt
I don't know anyone who does that. People smurf to get a game easier or for anonymity.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 11 May 2008, 10:25
by det
I know someone who smurfs to beat up on newbs

Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 11 May 2008, 17:14
by LordMatt
Bad det bad!

Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 11 May 2008, 18:36
by SwiftSpear
Regret wrote:SwiftSpear wrote:can't continuously use smurfing to escape a bad reputation, and thus you can't habitually use it to grief other players.
Welcome to the internets, this is a waste of time. You
can't stop people from being stupid.
It's cool. They don't have to stop, they just have to be abused when they are doing it so they go do it somewhere else.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 11 May 2008, 19:04
by Regret
SwiftSpear wrote:It's cool. They don't have to stop, they just have to be abused when they are doing it so they go do it somewhere else.
It's in no sense of word 'cool'. Using IP address to limit account creation will cause nothing but chaos and unnecessary hassle for moderators and players alike. It can also backfire and make the offenders learn how to use proxies with spring, then you'll be in for a real treat.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 11 May 2008, 20:57
by LordMatt
afaik most proxies have unacceptable latencies for playing.
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 11 May 2008, 21:06
by BrainDamage
LordMatt wrote:afaik most proxies have unacceptable latencies for playing.
you'd need the proxy only to login in the lobby, you can proxy the lobby but not spring
Re: One main account per IP
Posted: 11 May 2008, 21:54
by LordMatt
So you could still play but not host?