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Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 17:54
by Teutooni
Scratch wrote:If there's nothing there, then what separates planet earth from the next star? Not air.
Scratch, you'r theory sounds much like the outdated aether thesis. The thing that separates planet earth from the next star is called 'space-time' afaik. That is, dimensions. Planet earth is in some coordinates and the next star in some other coordinates. No need for mysterious dark energies to explain distance.
Scratch wrote:how is it possible that an atom in another part of the universe knows what an atom on the earth is doing at the exact same time?
Quantum entanglement, which implies to non-locality of the universe. Though information still seems to be local, meaning quantum entanglement can't be used to transfer information faster than light. When one of the entangled atoms changes state, the other does too, instantly, but the act of observing disturbs the state fucking things up. At least as far as I know, based on a mandatory physics course and a few science magazine articles.

Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 19:01
by Jazcash
Earth is composed of earth.
Therefore space is composed of space.
Simple.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 22:26
by CarRepairer
All matter is composed of sub-atomic particles called Teutons.
Here is a close-up:

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Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 21 Mar 2008, 01:17
by Teutooni
CarRepairer wrote:All matter is composed of sub-atomic particles called Teutons.
HAHA
That beats the crap out of TM's theory.

Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 21 Mar 2008, 08:14
by Scratch
Teutooni wrote:Scratch wrote:If there's nothing there, then what separates planet earth from the next star? Not air.
Scratch, you'r theory sounds much like the outdated aether thesis. The thing that separates planet earth from the next star is called 'space-time' afaik. That is, dimensions. Planet earth is in some coordinates and the next star in some other coordinates. No need for mysterious dark energies to explain distance.
These mysterious dark energies are what make us able to see distant galaxies, those within the first 500 million years of the big bang can only been seen because of how this dark matter is warped.
Some scientists have speculated that this dark matter which composes most of the known universe contains more energy in a square centimeter of space than the whole sun. Not only that but these forces are what actually hold us onto the earth, yet we unable to run any experiments. This is part of why they built the ISS.
But your right, I have much research to do in the area of subatomic physics.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 21 Mar 2008, 10:14
by TradeMark
Teutooni wrote:CarRepairer wrote:All matter is composed of sub-atomic particles called Teutons.
HAHA
That beats the crap out of TM's theory.

My theory is bulletproof, look at the video
In my theory everything is made of particles, even that what we call "energy" or dark matter, or even movement energy, space and gravity, (and even themselves?). Those particles just creates illusion of all those things. When there is enough of small particles with a force between them ("gravity"), they can look like anything, create anything.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 21 Mar 2008, 11:44
by Forboding Angel
LIES!!! ALL LIES!!!
Besides everything is in orbit around the earth... errr wait a sec, the earf is flat, how does that work???

Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 21 Mar 2008, 16:06
by manored
I have a teory:
"A mysterious force, for a mysterious reason, created the dimensions, the matter/energy, the laws that rule the matter/energy, and then went to do some other mysterious thing"
How does that sounds? :)
I think that some of the hard to explain things such as distant particles affecting each other might have something to see with dimensions. Like dimensions are so fundamental we cant imagine one beside the ones we have, so how could we know if by chance there was one unnoted dimension where the 2 distant particles were next to each other? :)
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 21 Mar 2008, 23:06
by Teutooni
Scratch wrote:These mysterious dark energies are what make us able to see distant galaxies, those within the first 500 million years of the big bang can only been seen because of how this dark matter is warped.
Yes, I've read that extremely long range images should be blurred due to planck length supposedly being the smallest distance that can be measured. However they were not, which suggests you have a point there.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 22 Mar 2008, 11:47
by SwiftSpear
I think a big invisible man did it.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 22 Mar 2008, 21:52
by manored
Teutooni wrote:Scratch wrote:These mysterious dark energies are what make us able to see distant galaxies, those within the first 500 million years of the big bang can only been seen because of how this dark matter is warped.
Yes, I've read that extremely long range images should be blurred due to planck length supposedly being the smallest distance that can be measured. However they were not, which suggests you have a point there.
I saw in a program that dark matter deflects light slighly, causing a "telescope effect", like, if you look through it you will see what is on the other side bigger or something like that.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 24 Mar 2008, 10:05
by Scikar
manored wrote:You cant know if you are inside a black box if you have never been outside the box to see it is black.
AKA All teories are wrong :)
Sure you can. If it's black on the outside it will absorb more heat from infrared so it will be warmer than if it were reflective or white. Assuming there's an infrared source outside of course, but while you wouldn't be able to demonstrate that it is not black (because it could be reflective or there could be no infrared source outside it), you could demonstrate that it is black, so long as there is an infrared source.
manored wrote:I saw in a program that dark matter deflects light slighly, causing a "telescope effect", like, if you look through it you will see what is on the other side bigger or something like that.
Gravitational lensing. Light that passes beyond the event horizon of a black hole cannot escape, but if it passes nearby it will still be affected by the gravitational pull.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 25 Mar 2008, 02:05
by Panda

I wonder if dark matter could be folded, like space was folded in Dune. I bet it would be folded using gravitational forces emitted by non-dark matter, like the way twin stars emit gravity between them only much more quickly for space travel and it would use plasma or some other form of related energy.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 25 Mar 2008, 08:34
by pharoph
If the earth is flat we would have made tunnels going to the other side.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 25 Mar 2008, 20:40
by Wolf-In-Exile
These people say your theory is bunk and refute it vigorously.
P.s. So, i heard u liek mudkips.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 26 Mar 2008, 13:55
by Comp1337
Scikar wrote:Sure you can. If it's black on the outside it will absorb more heat from infrared so it will be warmer than if it were reflective or white. Assuming there's an infrared source outside of course, but while you wouldn't be able to demonstrate that it is not black (because it could be reflective or there could be no infrared source outside it), you could demonstrate that it is black, so long as there is an infrared source.
you wouldnt have anything to compare to, a reflective box near the sun is still hot
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 27 Mar 2008, 20:04
by The_Big_Boss
most of history cant be proven, but we generally assume its true anyway.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 01:08
by BlueTemplar
To adress the first post:
Isn't this simply because at the astronomical level the gravity is the dominant force?
You'd have a hard time to explain a human being using only gravity...
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 02:16
by Panda
Comp1337 wrote:Scikar wrote:Sure you can. If it's black on the outside it will absorb more heat from infrared so it will be warmer than if it were reflective or white. Assuming there's an infrared source outside of course, but while you wouldn't be able to demonstrate that it is not black (because it could be reflective or there could be no infrared source outside it), you could demonstrate that it is black, so long as there is an infrared source.
you wouldnt have anything to compare to, a reflective box near the sun is still hot

If you had a very specialized instrument that could tell what different colors would be at certain temperatures at the location of the box (it's distance from the sun) you might be able to tell what color it is.
Can a blind person distinguish colors? I guess it would depend on the circumstances.
Re: New theory: The world is just particles with gravity!
Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 08:47
by Felix the Cat
What do you mean by "the world"? The entire universe? Our galaxy? The Solar System? The Earth? New York City? Your dog?
Gravity's effect on the system goes down as you go along that list. "Particles with gravity" can nearly adequately explain the behavior of the visible universe (assuming, as modern science does, that there's a bunch of "dark matter" hiding somewhere, perhaps in God's pocket) but wouldn't even scratch the surface of explaining the behavior of, say, a rhesus monkey.