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Re: TASClient autobalance

Posted: 09 Feb 2008, 14:31
by TradeMark
Dude, i have seen many games where some clan doesnt even want to balance the game, because they just wants to play a game and win it as easy as possible.

Where the hell is fun in that?

If you wanna just win a game, go play with noobs, dont ruin our games with crap balance because of your fear of losing a game.

Re: TASClient autobalance

Posted: 09 Feb 2008, 14:52
by ZellSF
See, now your issue is with crappy hosts, not autobalance. Huge difference. We're not ruining "your" games, if it was your game, you could force teams.

Well, technically not "we", I'm not even in a clan, I've just never seen the issue you're complaining about.

Which is why it's very confusing to me that you seem to think the problem is so major you'd force friends to not play with eachother.

Re: TASClient autobalance

Posted: 09 Feb 2008, 15:11
by TradeMark
Even if you havent noticed it, it doesnt mean the problem doesnt exist...

Most people dont even notice there is such button, and doesnt uncheck it. So if there joins some clan players, they probably gets at same side, and then the game is ruined. Those clan players of course never says anything about the balance... just cares that they are at same side and wants to have better chance to win.

I have kicked some clan players because of when i splitted the clan players at opposite sides, and know what? they changed their sides constantly at same side, so i just had to kick them.

I have always thought that the meaning of clans was to make clan wars against other clans? At least that is how they play in other games. So there wouldnt be any random people in their teams at all. And if there were random players, they shouldnt try to play the game like it was a clan battle against other clan. They shouldnt get any privilege or advantage because they are in a clan.

It just doesnt make any sense that the game should be balanced as it was a clan battle by default. 99.9999% of games arent clan battles. I demand that the checkbox will be unchecked by default.

Re: TASClient autobalance

Posted: 09 Feb 2008, 15:42
by ZellSF
Even if you havent noticed it, it doesnt mean the problem doesnt exist...
Considering you're the only one who has noticed it, yes it does.
Most people dont even notice there is such button, and doesnt uncheck it. So if there joins some clan players, they probably gets at same side, and then the game is ruined.
Again, clan players are not better than other players, and quite frequently, they suck at teamplay too. Games aren't ruined because of this, though I can recall a few games that were ruined because the clan team was so horrible compared to the other team of random people. Games that gets ruined because of this is an exception though, and not enough to warrant splitting friends up. A good host will be able to deal with it.

Autobalance will NEVER manage to make up for a bad host, just forget it.
I have always thought that the meaning of clans was to make clan wars against other clans?
No.
They shouldnt get any privilege or advantage because they are in a clan.
Yes, you should be able to play with your friends.
It just doesnt make any sense that the game should be balanced as it was a clan battle by default.
They're not, they're balanced so people that want to play together can do so. Would you feel better if we stopped calling it "clans"?
I demand that the checkbox will be unchecked by default.
You "demand"?

Re: TASClient autobalance

Posted: 09 Feb 2008, 16:23
by TradeMark
Yeah, i demand.

How many times i need to repeat myself... Clan players should not get any privileges, they should not be treated differently. We should be all equal, only rank should matter.

If you really wanna play with your lovely friends, go make passworded game with just your clan mates. Thats what i do when i wanna play with my friends.

Re: TASClient autobalance

Posted: 09 Feb 2008, 21:52
by ZellSF
What do you not get? Clans do not make games imbalanced, and so there is no reason to make effort to split friends apart.

It would be angering all the clan players to please one person.

Re: TASClient autobalance

Posted: 10 Feb 2008, 02:12
by TradeMark
No, i dont agree at all. You dont understand my point.

Re: TASClient autobalance

Posted: 10 Feb 2008, 02:32
by ZellSF
Yes, I do. Your point sucks.