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Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 13:01
by Snipawolf
jackalope wrote:
Snipawolf wrote:Oh, trust me, I fully agree. I could care less if they were killed on sight if they were found to illegal immigrants. Everybody says America is an asshole country, maybe we should start acting like it.
you see what's hilarious about this is:

1. you're like 15, which means you know nothing but the milk from your mom's teat.

2. you assume that when people say america is an asshole country that it must not be true, because: "hey, foxnews says we're pretty awesome."
My age has nothing to do with my standpoint. I've seen death, personally, and it isn't very pretty. So how old are you? 18? 21?

No, I KNOW America is an "asshole" country. Want to know something else? Humans all around the world do the same shit, they just don't post it online.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 13:02
by tombom
Wait. You're advocating illegal immigrants on sight? That's disgusting.

If you're 15 you don't exactly have much life experience. Age does matter.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 13:04
by Snipawolf
So someone who is 3-6 years older than me is supposedly infinitely wiser and more knowledgeable than me? Yeah, right.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 13:06
by pintle
Your advocation of murder on sight based upon flags and borders is what discredits your opinion, not your age.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 13:06
by tombom
pintle wrote:Your advocation of murder on sight based upon flags and borders is what discredits your opinion, not your age.
Pretty much.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 13:16
by smoth
Dragon45 wrote:Almost every "american" who hate aliens, illegal, and even legal, to the extent that the republican party does, conveniently forgets that yeah, face it, your grandparents came here on a boat too.
My grand parents came here and became legal citizens. So cry me a river if my family respected the law unlike illegals.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 17:05
by LathanStanley
I love how every counter-argument to "we need to control illegal immigration" boils down to some jacka__.. throwing out "you came here on a boat too" well guess what, the land wasn't territorially divided, nobody "claimed" it as national soil, etc. not to mention we were GIVEN a good portion of the land to live on. Then we clamied it, drew maps and borders, and guess what... WE CIVILIZED IT. Following, we fought for the rest of it, and did some bad things to the native americans to take it... but that is history. And if they, Mexico and other 3rd world central America countries are doing "bad things" to us to take it, I take it as an act of war and frankly, I'll fight with lethal force to stop them.

Understand I'm not racist, by no means, hell I dated a latino woman, a legal immigrant from Mexico, she and I got along very well... and hell, 90% of them are GOOD PEOPLE!, its just, grumble... the illegal ones, that don't give a crap about the rest of us, that just want to take, steal, rape, and plunder our wonderful country... they need to have their heads removed. :evil:

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 17:19
by Sleksa
smoth wrote:
Dragon45 wrote:Almost every "american" who hate aliens, illegal, and even legal, to the extent that the republican party does, conveniently forgets that yeah, face it, your grandparents came here on a boat too.
My grand parents came here and became legal citizens. So cry me a river if my family respected the law unlike illegals.
Most of the people who actually went to america were criminals and such.

I find it hard for a doctor or a professor in europe to suddenly throw his life away and charge into a new continent, but a man who has nothing to lose might be more interested to start his life over in a new continent.

also disrespecting the law is no good excuse to kill another man, usa being a heavily christian country, you should know the 10 commandments pretty well.

and guess what... WE CIVILIZED IT.
you civilized the indians like conquistadors civilized south america?

in truth, you did jack shit, the brits "civilized it" and then you rebelled and took it all to yourself(correct if im wrong ;)

And if they, Mexico and other 3rd world central America countries are doing "bad things" to us to take it, I take it as an act of war and frankly, I'll fight with lethal force to stop them.
fuck yeah cuba was doing bad things to you so it had to be invaded(bay of the pigs?) And when that failed you instead opted to suffocate the country.

or should we talk about other CIA assasination runs on south america.

considering all this shit i think illegal immigration is pettier crime when a country is invading and killing as it pleases


even the neo-nazis in my country have better arguments about racism/illegal immigration than you do snipa, try to bring up some real reasoning to back your thoughts

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 17:26
by rattle
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the illegal ones, that don't give a crap about the rest of us, that just want to take, steal, rape, and plunder our wonderful country...
Agreed. I guess it's a rather small number but still, kick them out, don't have them waste taxes while they enjoy the luxury of prison.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 17:27
by pintle
Sleksa wrote:ownage
America break international law all the time, should we shoot em? :wink:

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 17:39
by smoth
Sleksa wrote:
smoth wrote:
Dragon45 wrote:Almost every "american" who hate aliens, illegal, and even legal, to the extent that the republican party does, conveniently forgets that yeah, face it, your grandparents came here on a boat too.
My grand parents came here and became legal citizens. So cry me a river if my family respected the law unlike illegals.
Most of the people who actually went to america were criminals and such.
yeah, or they were poor and getting the hell out of a bad country. Of course I am not saying my Caribbean blood was in any way innocent prior to coming here.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 17:48
by Forboding Angel
You guys seriously don't get how bad it is. II's (illegal Immigrants) are flooding into this country at an astounding rate.

Technically we are being invaded. THe constitution gives us the right as citizens to protect our country. Most people even the ones that are the most staunch vs II's (like myself) do not savor the thought of sitting in trees and picking people off with a rifle.

WHAT WE WANT, IS FOR OUR GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT OUR F*CKING BORDERS!!!

The fat c**ts in congress are full of sh*t. Republicans had 6 years in power. 6 FREAKING YEARS! What did they do with that power, they freaking ignored the people that put them in office and EXPANDED GOVERNMENT which is 100% against the reasons we elected them. Jesus, a beautiful opportunity to fix some things seriously wrong with this country and those rat bastards get drunk with power.

The same sort of drunkenness that caused Harry Reid to go after Rush Limbaugh, that is causing Hillary to be even more indecisive than ever, and is causing socialists in congress to jump off the deep end en masse.

We the people should have the right to remove our elected officials from office at any time (assuming there is 75% majority in said state).

Coming back round robin to my point, ALL WE WANT IS A GODDAMN WALL ON OUR BORDERS AND THE MILITARY TO ACTUALLY GUARD IT!


BTW the caps in this post are me yelling at the morons in congress. Not anyone here on this forum.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 17:51
by Sleksa
When was the last time building a wall stopped immigration

could you find me one in teh history books plz

a wiki is fine too

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 17:58
by Erom
Forboding Angel wrote:ALL WE WANT IS A GODDAMN WALL ON OUR BORDERS AND THE MILITARY TO ACTUALLY GUARD IT!
I like to consider myself fairly liberal, but I too think that there is a real problem here. Just the same, a wall ain't gonna do squat. We need a real solution.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 18:00
by pintle
minefield? :twisted:

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 18:00
by smoth
not that you care sleksa, I doubt you really do but here is the crux of the issue,

Ultimately there is no accountability for illegal immigrants. I personally know of several instances and witnessed one where they have gone and hurt a citizen of this country. They were not held accountable only sent back over the border without any consequences. This means that if you are a mexican you can cross the border, kill or rape and NOTHING will come of it.

We as citizens are bound by the law and if one of them did hurt panda, I would go to JAIL for protecting or defending her. Think about what that means? Now I know from my trip to europe that you guys are supposed to trust your police or whatever it is called. However, this country is HUGE and people are very widely spread. The police can only do soo much, so we the citizens, are supposed to defend our self. However, the bleeding hearts who live far separated from it have no understanding of it and call us ignorant because we want to have a safe place to raise a family.

People can be raped or murdered on the southern border states without any protection from the law. Now I am not saying this is a common thing but it is growing in numbers. We have the issue also that people outside of the southern states do not believe it because they do not see it happening it is mostly covered up as though it never happened and people are more concerned with gay marriage then they are of the growing issues in the southern states and soon the midwest.

Seriously, I plan on moving out of the south before I start a family because this place is not, in my opinion, safe.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 18:15
by Forboding Angel
Erom wrote:
Forboding Angel wrote:ALL WE WANT IS A GODDAMN WALL ON OUR BORDERS AND THE MILITARY TO ACTUALLY GUARD IT!
I like to consider myself fairly liberal, but I too think that there is a real problem here. Just the same, a wall ain't gonna do squat. We need a real solution.
It represents an obstacle, it also allows for sensors, cameras, etc to be installed on it so that monitoring is easier.

Ditto to what smoth said. He is 100% correct. As citizens we can't do dick shit about Illegal Immigrants, even if they harm us, because of the laws we are bound to uphold. However, as I said, the constitution gives us the right to bear arms and protect our country (even from within), but thanks to liberals and activist judges on the supreme court, there is a very good chance that no matter what said II did to you or your family, you will got to jail for defending yourself, and the II MAY be sent back over the border.

It's sad, and sickening.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 18:16
by Sleksa
illegal immigrant pretty much get deported in here too lols.

there is one case i remember when a guy who was being deported bit a guard that was escorting him and infected him with HIV, and he got back to nigeria without any charges in here or there.

We as citizens are bound by the law and if one of them did hurt panda, I would go to JAIL for protecting or defending her. Think about what that means?
would you like to show me the part of the law where it says that protecting human lives is a criminal offense?

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 18:20
by Forboding Angel
pintle wrote:minefield? :twisted:
How is that any different from sitting in a tree with a rifle picking people off.

Very few actually want to kill them. We just want the flood to stop. A minefield with posted signs etc etc would be an excellent deterrent however, grusome it might seem. The annoying thjing is, you know damn well some retard is gonna try to walk through it and fuck himself up.

Then all the bleeding heart socialists come out and tell us again how mean we are.

I have said it before... Socialism is a cancer that threatens to erode the foundation upon which this country was built.

Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 18:23
by Sleksa
actually stalin pretty much killed anyone who tried to get into soviet union, legally or illegally , so your thinking is very much alike to his lulz