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gamer17 wrote:If you don't know what your talking about, then don't answer

I have a 3.2 ghz motherboard and 1.2 gb ram

Hmmm...

Well what kind of CPU? Intel P4? Anything below a dualcore will probably not run supcom well.

Ask NOiZE, after he upgraded his already dual core CPU to a better one (X2 3800 -> X2 4xxx or something) the game was at least playable. It was just a slideshow before he told me, so the CPU was the bottleneck.

If you don't plan on doing any major upgrades for a few months
or so. This video card will play the games you want and will cost
around $150 on Tigerdirect

BFG GeForce 7600 GS OC / 512MB GDDR2 / AGP 8x

This would be the cheapest way out until you do a MB & CPU
upgrade.

3.2Ghz sounds indeed like a pentium 4 class cpu, singlecore, pre-pentium-D.

1.2GB sounds like a mix match assymetrical ram configuration.

You wont get anywhere with supcom running a singlecore cpu.

1GB ram is okish but 1.2GB sounds like youve got several different types, and assymetrical ram is never a good idea as it slows the memory buses and is innefficient.

2x 512MB > 1x 512MB+2x 256MB
symmetrical 1GB > assymterical 1.2GB

just a note for future upgrades.

I really think that even that 7600 would not perform at its max on your system, if you get it Id upgrade to a pentium D or a chap core 2 duo, perhaps a cheapo mobo if the sockets are different, then at a later date you can do a bigger update with more expensive components.

A cheap mobo with a PCI-E bus + a cheap PCI-e card might be worth looking into.

My ram is 1 GB + 256 MB

and a duo core is not required
with that 6800 I'll be above the requirements

Like I told you I tried the demo my 5500 and it ran, so if I play the full game with the 6800 and the patches I'll be fine

I can run supcom on my ancient 450mhz PC, that doesnt mean I dont need a core 2 duo.

You may not realize it but your cpu matters a lot more than you think and that bottleneck is just as much in your cpu as the graphics card, your just swapping 1 problem for another.

imo for supcom the cpu is more important than the gfx card.

Doesn't exist IMO. A vid card capable of playing those titles will be > $150 and PCIE

Remember, even the gfx card is affected by the cpu. A DX10 gpu will degrade in performance with a slower cpu, and its been shown that you really do need a core 2 duo class cpu for those types of gfx cards or you're seriously stunting your performance.

Remember, every 1.6 years cpu performance doubles. Core 2 duo is a bigger leap forward than people realize and it pushed intel ahead of the curve.

I don't know what you think, but am not tying to play the game on high
I know its not just about the gfx, thats why am not buy a high end one
And supcom was at the bottom of my list

I already own Rainbow six vegas and GRAW , those are waht I really want to play


AF
I know your right about needing to upgrade to a duo 2 core and a newer motherboard

Thats just too much money then I want to spend right now, I am 100% sure I can run supcom on low

I played supcom beta fine on a AMD XP 2400+, 1gb Ram, 6600GT. And from everything I've heard performance has only gotten better since beta.


If your standards of frame rate arent too high I dont think things are as bleak as this thread makes them out to be, at least in the short term.

Ignore everyone else. So your goal is to play SupCom?

Your only realistic option is the 7800 GS, which is unfortunately rather expensive because everyone is realizing it's the last great AGP card. A comparable PCI-E card costs far less.

So you come to this point and you realize, I can have an AGP card or a PCI-E card and a new motherboard for the same price.

So just upgrade the whole thing. You'll spend more but waste less. Get a cheap C2D CPU, 2 GB cheap PC2-6400 RAM, an Asus mobo (P5B-E is good) and a high 7xxx-range Geforce.

This eliminates your graphics card woes AND what may be an even larger issue, which is your CPU and RAM. I would go so far as to say that SupCom REQUIRES a dual core CPU. It is the very first game to really take advantage of dual core processing, and you'll really be hurting without at least a Pentium D, or much better a Core 2 Duo.

We're in for a golden age of PC gaming if everything goes right. Developers cannot expect everyone to have a GF8 GPU any time soon. So they have to develop games with the GF7 and equivalent in mind. However the mere existence of the GF8 has driven the price of GF7 down. Furthermore, C2D cpus are affordable, and RAM is very cheap.

This is the time to upgrade, it's a buyer's market and everything is in your favour.

Do NOT buy anything less than a 7xxx series, and not one of the budget boards either. 7800 minimum. Below 7800 the price drops slowly while the performance drops very quickly. The tradeoff just isn't worth it.

Caydr wrote: This is the time to upgrade, it's a buyer's market and everything is in your favour.

He's not buying property... The only reason things are slightly up right now is because the core duo is awesome and it price dropped.

So this would be good
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... CatId=2406

If I was not going to college in a few weeks I would order it today, but I really need to save my money
In a few months I'll consider getting it

And I have noticed PCI-e cards are cheaper then the weaker AGP cards

PCIe is standard. AGP isn't being manufactured in the farms any more, so the cards are either legacy (read "suck") or specialty (read "expensive"). You simply get much better bang for your buck from a PCIe card. AGP cards that can handle new titles are no where NEAR the same range as the low end PCIe cards.

[edit] Ya, that's a fairly nice lowend mobo/CPU combo. Worth the price to say the least.

I still might get the 6800 so I can play Vegas and GRAW

rattle wrote:Ask NOiZE, after he upgraded his already dual core CPU to a better one (X2 3800 -> X2 4xxx or something) the game was at least playable. It was just a slideshow before he told me, so the CPU was the bottleneck.

He did something wrong. I run high [not ultra] at 1680 x 1050 4 x af no aa and it runs 25 average: totally playable.


X2 3800 2 gb ram 7800gt

genblood wrote:If you don't plan on doing any major upgrades for a few months
or so. This video card will play the games you want and will cost
around $150 on Tigerdirect

BFG GeForce 7600 GS OC / 512MB GDDR2 / AGP 8x

This would be the cheapest way out until you do a MB & CPU
upgrade.

Uhh, 7900 GSs are averaging under 120 right now.

gamer17 wrote:I don't know what you think, but am not tying to play the game on high
I know its not just about the gfx, thats why am not buy a high end one
And supcom was at the bottom of my list

I already own Rainbow six vegas and GRAW , those are waht I really want to play


AF
I know your right about needing to upgrade to a duo 2 core and a newer motherboard

Thats just too much money then I want to spend right now, I am 100% sure I can run supcom on low

Actually AF, he's right. As long as he doesn't join anything above say a 2v2 with a 1000 unit cap, he can play. Anything above that my friend, and I don't care what graphics card you put on that rig, you will not run happily at ANY graphics setting. AF is putting emphasis on your CPU because supcom's framerates depends heavily on other aspects of the engine as well. And don't expect single player performance to be an indicator of multiplayer performance, since single player won't have as many units onscreen.

C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

I'd say most amd cpus wont cut it for supcom, and a core 2 duo is a must.

Otherwise after 15 minutes you're guaranteed lag of some kind and low frameraes, even with minimum gfx settigns.

Im getting supcom for single player, not online
I have spring for online, thats why I keep saying I should be able to run it