Spring RTS Engine

so we arent playing BA anymore but hundreds of different BA mods...I think that could get really confusing. Before every game you had to check the specific metal settings for each unit. I would be really annoyed...

caldera wrote:so we arent playing BA anymore but hundreds of different BA mods...I think that could get really confusing. Before every game you had to check the specific metal settings for each unit. I would be really annoyed...

Should be trivial to make it a modoption called "debug mode".

I'd like to hear what kind of bad gameplay changes you're afraid of with some slight t2 change TFC.

And with such debug mode I doubt much meaningful testing would get done... And constantly playing serious games in a altered mode would be ridiculous.

JohannesH wrote:some slight t2 change

I'm not sure you're on the same boat.

JohannesH wrote:I'd like to hear what kind of bad gameplay changes you're afraid of with some slight t2 change TFC.

And with such debug mode I doubt much meaningful testing would get done... And constantly playing serious games in a altered mode would be ridiculous.

A slight change to plasma-bots (one I supported at the time) made rockos useless.

And you're not talking about a slight change.

You may very well make a good game by dropping T2 costs... but it will require a lot of re-balancing throughout the unit-set, not simply changing a few prices here and there.

Ultimately, the end result would play very different from BA as it is right now. That might be a good thing, but it really wouldn't be BA anymore. That's why the policy is "if you want big changes, fork it".

Its a slight change compared to this for example. Depending on what kind of change exactly would be done of course. Or then address the problems of this huge, gamechanging buff if t2 lab costed some metal less, or had few times more buildpower, or something else. Its pretty easy to make a buff in such way that it doesnt help tech rushing. TFC, Regret, or whoever is in charge of BA balance changes these days...

Pxtl wrote:A slight change to plasma-bots (one I supported at the time) made rockos useless.

Shows how much you know, rockos still fared against hammers (more range & speed) it was everything else that they killed.

And yes some stuff would need changing probably, but thats because nobody can see the imbalances in t2 play currently since most every game including t2 besides liches has huge random factor of noobs playing.

the gadget would have to signal visually that non-defaul values are used, and then a widget could show the changed stuff. also, for the majority of games, the defautl values would be used, except someone implements a special thing, like a dynamic economy model as described, which also would (have to) show changes in a way it is obvious to the users.

Johan raising the build power of t2 labs might be a good idea but making labs be strong suppliers of Build power makes the game less flexible.
Instead of being able to divert build power to different places as you see fit you will be stuck with a lab that will use tons of build power than you cannot redirect.
The more build power labs generate the less flexibility you have.

Pxtl - this was not slight change same as decreasing t2 lab cost.

I still think that decreasing moho's extractors cost is better idea, main problem with t2 is upgrading first few mex, e stall caused by that + problem is even bigger when u need to make units at the same time (1v1,2v2 etc)

Wombat wrote:Pxtl - this was not slight change same as decreasing t2 lab cost.

I still think that decreasing moho's extractors cost is better idea, main problem with t2 is upgrading first few mex, e stall caused by that + problem is even bigger when u need to make units at the same time (1v1,2v2 etc)

Nah. Building mohomexes makes for a smaller e drain than building of most t1 units. They do take a good amount of m to make though, takes around 2 minutes for it to pay back for the m spent to build it.

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metalaxe wrote:i like chocolate biscuits <3

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I'll recommend you to make the next balance batch for BA.

Regret wrote:

metalaxe wrote:i like chocolate biscuits <3

ps/ LOOOL

I'll recommend you to make the next balance batch for BA.

why do you like chocolate biscuits too? <3

metalaxe wrote:

Regret wrote:

metalaxe wrote:i like chocolate biscuits <3

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I'll recommend you to make the next balance batch for BA.

why do you like chocolate biscuits too? <3

i like chocolate biscuits <3

where are moderators?

lets just stop playing BA and support Pro Annihilation

bugzor - flak doesnt shoot enemy trans when it naps allie unit

the flash icon is tiny, smaller than the scout icon, which is pretty unintuitive. Probably a result of the flash having such a small hitsphere

I found this a bit strange:
pyro heaps can be reserructed :S
Isnt reserruction only supposed to be possible with wreckages?
(see screen)

you are right ,there is a bug