Spring RTS Engine

TechnoTone wrote:The biggest problem with these BA threads isn't the subject matter or the fact that many people have differing point of view. The biggest problem IMO is the demeaning manner in which some people refer to others which often then degenerates into mindless bickering followed by all out flame wars.

That's true.

But its not only a problem in BA threads. WarC should state clearly that BA is only for 1vs1 and that only retards play it in team games (in their opinion). This would prevent new players (=retards) from download that mod (as it is the most popular mod) to have fun in team games and get insulted afterwards for doing so.
If you continue it this way, there won't be team games any more because there are simply no players left.
There should be a more friendly alternative to BA that isnt hostile to new players and to team games. Honestly. Otherwise Spring will get lost. It cant survive this way.

And now go on and flame me...

Well considering that BA "IS PLAYED" 95% of the time, as the staple Team game mod, not supporting the community's suggestions to improve the team play aspects of the game, is just ignorance.

I just wish Caydr would come back to us with a real mod that isn't biased.

Just for the record, most BA players don't even read this thread.

How about for the next release of BA, just upload it as a passworded archive, then only the 1v1 players have access to it.

That would forever reveal that the mod is a 1v1, elitist only mod.

NOiZE wrote:Just for the record, most BA players don't even read this thread.

It's not limited to this thread.

But dont get me wrong: I love BA and I love you for doing it.
But I start to have the feeling that it does hate me, and that kills the fun.

People as a group are as intelligent as the most retarded guy in the group, this is why democracy in designing a game and balancing it is not a serious option.

You have to have a intelligent elite who makes the decisions because the people cannot make decisions that are for the best. Currently the audience is the people who play the mod, and the intelligent elite is NOiZE and other high lvl players that have noize's respect. Their ideas and voices regarding balance changes are the only real voices that are listened to.

But I start to have the feeling that it does hate me, and that kills the fun.

Honestly said, i dont hate you. I just dont care about you. If you'd go and find bugs on the game and report them i would like you. If you would play this game in a serious competitive level and try to exploit the game to the fullest i would like you.

If you just come here and voice your opinions on how to change ba to the better good i will hate you

altho thats just me ~,~

Post replays of examples where it is shown that BB is OP and where opponent won because of it.

Basically I want game were your game was tied or you were winning. Opponent built BB and you lost (even though you had at least lvl 1 air).

Give me also detailed time at which time this happened and on which players I should focus.

I'll try checking it, if time will let me.

Speedmetal/Green fields map don't count.

very_bad_soldier wrote:If you continue it this way, there won't be team games any more because there are simply no players left.
There should be a more friendly alternative to BA that isnt hostile to new players and to team games.

Hostile to new players and team games? WTF is that? The mod is not hostile to anyone, however it rewards people who play well, as any game should. Are you suggesting that the mod should instead allow even shitty players to drag a game out forever and that would be fun? New players (or ones who refuse to learn and get better) should not be making balance decisions, they should be learning to play properly.

Also team games work fine in BA, e.g. something like 3v3 on deltasiege dry, or 3v3 riverdale, or 4v4 xan the terra. These are fun games with BA. However 6v6 DSD gets old really fast, but that's because that's a horrible and boring way to play, not because there is something wrong with BA. BA is balanced on the premise that to win you must expand and control territory, if you pack tonnes of players into a small space, you negate that premise, and BA's balance may fail. If you want to balance for crappy games like that go make Porc Annihilation.

MR.D wrote: I just wish Caydr would come back to us with a real mod that isn't biased.

Would that be the version with OP flashes? Or OP gators? Or OP weasels? Or OP mavs? What about the versions where kbots absolutely dominated vehicles, or when kbots weren't viable at all? Your attitude towards BA and the good players who balance it speak volumes about how you have tonnes of ingame time but would be no match for someone like Sleksa or Hellspawn or Noize 1v1.

Mr.Frumious wrote: Did MT's missile speed get buffed recently? I haven't actually closely watched the effect in a few versions (plus, games that go late enough to require heavy bomber-attacks are rare). It used to be that a scout would move fast enough that, while it would get killed by the first shot, it would draw fire from the first few shots from every MT in the base because it could plunge so deep in before that first missile caught-up enough to hit.

Scouts lost their flares.

Sleksa wrote:People as a group are as intelligent as the most retarded guy in the group...

And thats why everyone thinks WarC is a stupid clan

You arguing one with the other about how ba devs should speak of their mod is pretty much useless since none will ever convince the other.

Instead,i suggest you all download The Fifth Millennium and play it till you drop.Your probably asking yourselves how is me telling you to play TFM got to do with anything.All i can say is that i really dont know...but ill think about it...

LOrDo wrote: And thats why everyone thinks WarC is a stupid clan

+1 especially noize.

LOrDo wrote: And thats why everyone thinks WarC is a stupid clan

Almost verbatim quote:

<PRO_flopflopflop> day has more brains than the rest of warc combined
<[WarC]SwiftSpear> I dispute that - noize and sleksa don't have enough negative brains to put day ahead of me

Aaaaaaaand another BA thread run to its logical conclusion.

If this thread has no bearing on the balance of the mod (and it probably doesnt), i dont know why you bother to respond, guys. Just let the neebs argue with eachother about op flashes.

Has anyone ever seen that movie groundhog day? yknow, where Bill Murray wakes up and the same thing happens to him every day? Its a bit like reading this thread...
The same arguments have been coming up in the aa/ba thread for the last 2 years, Im sure they're on a rotation system, next week it'll be flashes... again...

Just bomb the Bertha's.... durrrr

LOrDo wrote:

Sleksa wrote:People as a group are as intelligent as the most retarded guy in the group...

And thats why everyone thinks WarC is a stupid clan

oh my ;<

Sleksa wrote:

LOrDo wrote:

Sleksa wrote:People as a group are as intelligent as the most retarded guy in the group...

And thats why everyone thinks WarC is a stupid clan

oh my ;<

pwned. that was really good.

Dragon45 wrote:

Sleksa wrote:

LOrDo wrote: And thats why everyone thinks WarC is a stupid clan

oh my ;<

pwned. that was really good.

It was so good, the trolling canceled out. I didn't even have to edit anything.

However, I'm here to tell you that this is getting out of hand. On the other hand, I stopped posting in this thread because it's a conflict of interest for me, so you don't have to deal with my reasonable dissenting voice for a little while.

man this is some delicious trolling in here or is it normal to make fun of warc this much? Clue me in, I don't have time to lurk more.

BigSteve wrote:Has anyone ever seen that movie groundhog day? yknow, where Bill Murray wakes up and the same thing happens to him every day? Its a bit like reading this thread...
The same arguments have been coming up in the aa/ba thread for the last 2 years, Im sure they're on a rotation system, next week it'll be flashes... again...

Just bomb the Bertha's.... durrrr

steve the berthas are pretty stupid atm though, you havent even been playing!

you could argue the issues are coming back not because of some quantum time loop but because they are real issues and never get fixed.

Blame noize, not warc!