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Re: Whats your religion?

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 03:12
by SwiftSpear
PicassoCT wrote:Yeah, lets get metaphysical - there is a 0,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% Chance that God exists, it is a chance that big - there is a greater chance to win the lottery three times..

But people still believe in lotterys and they believe in God... the whole point is, drawn in fine line or not, they don´t care for reason. And why don´t they care for reasons when it comes down to lottery? Lack of Imagination (Concerning great Numbers, Scale, Math, the Universes as Whole), lack of knowledge and a little system in there brainz rewarding them like Skinners Rats for useless behaviour. Evolution made God, which proofs that Evolution can lead to epic Fail, and still exist further ;)
There's a 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% chance the universe was created by something.

Magical statistics fail 100%

Re: Whats your religion?

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 11:05
by tombom
manored wrote:Biologic evolution is bunch of quimic reactions that can cease or not,
ahahahhaa i guess you could put it that way

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quim

(it seems to be a spanish/portugese word but this is funnier)

Re: Whats your religion?

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 14:53
by ILMTitan
PicassoCT wrote:Yeah, lets get metaphysical - there is a 0,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% Chance that God exists, it is a chance that big - there is a greater chance to win the lottery three times.
Where are you getting that percentage? Assuming all that we could possibly know is in the universe, there can be no evidence of whether something created it or not. Given two options and zero information, I believe Bayesian probability assigns a probability of .5 to each option.

Given a choice between two equally likely beliefs, I choose to believe the one that makes me happier, that god created the universe. The agnostic principle that god can't be proven either way I hold as a fact, rather than a belief. Finally, I hold as both belief and axiom the time spanning version of The Principle of Uniformity of Nature.

Re: Whats your religion?

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 19:39
by manored
tombom wrote:
manored wrote:Biologic evolution is bunch of quimic reactions that can cease or not,
ahahahhaa i guess you could put it that way

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quim

(it seems to be a spanish/portugese word but this is funnier)
Ops :) Yeah its almost a portuguese word, there are some portuguese words wich have a very similar translation to english, but this is NOT one of those :) I actually meant chemically

Re: Whats your religion?

Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 09:54
by SwiftSpear
ILMTitan wrote:
PicassoCT wrote:Yeah, lets get metaphysical - there is a 0,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% Chance that God exists, it is a chance that big - there is a greater chance to win the lottery three times.
Where are you getting that percentage? Assuming all that we could possibly know is in the universe, there can be no evidence of whether something created it or not. Given two options and zero information, I believe Bayesian probability assigns a probability of .5 to each option.

Given a choice between two equally likely beliefs, I choose to believe the one that makes me happier, that god created the universe. The agnostic principle that god can't be proven either way I hold as a fact, rather than a belief. Finally, I hold as both belief and axiom the time spanning version of The Principle of Uniformity of Nature.
I tend to be the same way. In the absence of strong governing evidences, I choose to believe what I want to believe until I discover evidences that allow my to go back to the drawing board and redesign.

I personally believe the vast majority of people do this... it's just the dumb ones don't realize they are doing it :P

As far as I can tell, all non-empirical beliefs (which the majority of them are) are either chosen or forced upon someone. I personally feel comforted in the thought that even if I eventually find I'm wrong about something, at least I had the personal freedom to choose it, rather than I was deceived by someone else. It's easy to rectify self deception in a complicated situation, it's much harder to rectify being deceived by someone else.