Spring RTS Engine

KaiserJ wrote:i'll be interested to see how you guys handle big stuff like labs... different texture? moar polies? haha dont tell me, i like surprises

i would think the current texture would suffice. that being said, i havent seen what kind of style mr bob would want for things like lab and factories.

btw, does the spring engine only take in square textures? or can it take like rectangular textures such as 1024x2048

y

Also, how does the spring engine recognize reflection? Is it texture based or just checked off later?

u mean 'reflective units' in spring options ? ta units got only basic diffuse, so i think texture got nothing to do with it. but im just guessing D:

show me new models, im bored

Wombat wrote:u mean 'reflective units' in spring options ? ta units got only basic diffuse, so i think texture got nothing to do with it. but im just guessing D:

show me new models, im bored

Well, I'll get a few more done in a couple of minutes, but Pyra here has made some as well.




I think he did a swell job.

Not sure what I'm looking at. One is core kbot con the other is....?


Another version?


They're good but seem a little simple. Not poly-wise but design wise, the unit overall is pretty much a square. :/

Mr. Bob wrote:

I really really really really cannot express how much I like this.

Hobo Joe wrote:Not sure what I'm looking at. One is core kbot con the other is....?


Another version?


They're good but seem a little simple. Not poly-wise but design wise, the unit overall is pretty much a square. :/

The other is the advanced con. It probably looks like a square because they are both in their packed states.

I think they both look great I just really like that little one.

the first one is the CORE Construction Kbot and the second is the CORE Adv Construction Kbot. CORCK and CORACK. And yes, the arms do fold out. Or at least they should if anyone is actually animating/scripting these. i tried not to stray too far from the original design

honestly...they are just boxes with legs.

i dont know what the hell happened when they designed this thing. First it has two sturdy flat foot and then it turns into these spider leg like things which look flimsy imo. i would like to redo the corack legs if no one minds. to something that more resembles the corck one.

EDIT: Different angles with extended arm/laserthingy
CORCK CORACK

Seem great to me keep em coming...

Gota wrote:I have one major request.
Before you continue texturing the rest of the models please try out a a unit you finished texturing (liek the guardian for example) ingame and see how it looks from up close,from regular gameplay distance and from a bit further away.

The reason is that some of the previously made models look a bit blend from a distance even though up close they look great.
Perhaps adding a bit more contrast or some artificial lighting would bypass that issue(i assume its a spring engine lighting issue).

How spring textures work:
Units have two textures by default:
First texture contains color, and in its alpha channel specifies teamcolor.
Second texture red channel is glow (self illumination), green is reflectivity, and alpha is transparency (only binary transparency supported atm).

Normals are supported separately through luashaders.

Spring supports rectangular power of two textures as well.

Btw, the cons are stunning :D

The worn look is way better on your con (here is my version of the con)


The rest of my t1 remakes:
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23135

Some of my t2 remakes:
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23244

someone messed up wiki or i simply cant find info about textures again >>

When are you going to do a release of models? They look great, but we have to see them in-game :) I'm pretty sure other guys here will script the models if you're having difficulties or want to focus on cranking out the models and textures.

You seem to have prodigious modelling skills, I haven't seen even a group of people get that many models done in that time period Keep up the good work.

pyra wrote:the first one is the CORE Construction Kbot and the second is the CORE Adv Construction Kbot. CORCK and CORACK. And yes, the arms do fold out. Or at least they should if anyone is actually animating/scripting these. i tried not to stray too far from the original design

honestly...they are just boxes with legs.

i dont know what the hell happened when they designed this thing. First it has two sturdy flat foot and then it turns into these spider leg like things which look flimsy imo. i would like to redo the corack legs if no one minds. to something that more resembles the corck one.

EDIT: Different angles with extended arm/laserthingy
CORCK

corckpreview.jpg

CORACK

corackpreview.jpg

Yeah they look better with their arms out, although nano arms seem a little fat :D


Join going to say though it's units like those where design liberties can safely be made (and probably should be), things that just look bad or don't make sense won't be missed by people. Like, Behe's version is cube-like but it just has a little more going on.

But anyway don't let me stop you from continuing these awesome models, keep it up.

Heres something to play around with.

EDIT: oops wrong filetype. Now it has 3ds and obj.

making the CORE combat engineer right now.

unlike in the original one, this one has the nano thingy attached to the shoulder, not forearm. i thought that would be more structurally plausible.

the leg design has also been changed and i shall make that tomorow

[quote="Mr. Bob"]Also, how does the spring engine recognize reflection? Is it texture based or just checked off later?[/quote]Texture 1 is RGB Alpha, alpha being teamcolour.

Reflections and glow are done with a second RBGA texture, red being glow, green being reflectivity. Alpha is transparency (Which is binary on-off transparency). Blue is unused.
Edit: Nevermind, behe already answered that.

Spring also supports OBJ, you can find info about that here:
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... lit=format

It is great to see a competent, dedicated group taking this on, and in the way you are, understanding the requirements for RTS models. This is a very exciting thing for Spring.

Saktoth wrote:[quote="Mr. Bob"]Also, how does the spring engine recognize reflection? Is it texture based or just checked off later?

Texture 1 is RGB Alpha, alpha being teamcolour.

Reflections and glow are done with a second RBGA texture, red being glow, green being reflectivity. Alpha is transparency (Which is binary on-off transparency). Blue is unused.[/s]
Edit: Nevermind, behe already answered that.

Spring also supports OBJ, you can find info about that here:
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... lit=format

It is great to see a competent, dedicated group taking this on, and in the way you are, understanding the requirements for RTS models. This is a very exciting thing for Spring.[/quote]

A word from Spring CEO...XD

A word from Spring CEO...XD

Thats Licho.