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Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 24 Aug 2008, 01:45
by sillynanny
Actually we have auto map rotation (with dsd in almost every other slot) and still tabula and altored regularly get voted back to DSD.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 06:09
by KaiserJ
i'm an admin there, i havent had any complaints, and i've only banned 2 or 3 people in the past few months (temp bans i might add)
if you arent happy with something that happened on the lair (admin abuse, somebody d-gunning you, etc) you have a few options of recourse... pming one of the admins works, posting in this thread works, and joining #the_lair channel and leaving a message works as well.
im not sure why mephistos picked the admins that he did, but here's what im guessing in terms of criteria:
-people who have no aspirations of controlling or exploting adminship (fewer ragebans, more intelligent decisions made by admins)
-people who are generally good sports and want everyone in the game to enjoy themselves as much as possible
-people from different timezones so that the autohost will generally always have an admin playing on it or at least in the lobby to reset it if it gets buggered up.
i would have handled the situations stated earlier differently, but i wasnt there... the only way that admin abuse and suchforth comes out is by people reporting it
in any case, regardless of whether you love or hate the server, mephistos_lair is still a contribution of effort and bandwidth to the community, please dont devalue someones effort to contribute, if anything offer constructive suggestions so that it can improve.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 09:32
by BaNa
I recently played a game where an admin (his name i forget, but mephisto was ingame, he heard our complaints) kicked someone from the enemy team for outplaying him (his ass got dropped on). I hope that guy is no longer admin, but TBH meph didn't seem too taken by it, he kind of ignored the whole thing.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 15:16
by Baladin
I has an idea, stop giving these guys the attention they desire, its an auto host like all others, who cares?
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 20:44
by sillynanny
BaNa wrote:I recently played a game where an admin (his name i forget, but mephisto was ingame, he heard our complaints) kicked someone from the enemy team for outplaying him (his ass got dropped on). I hope that guy is no longer admin, but TBH meph didn't seem too taken by it, he kind of ignored the whole thing.
Meph is often afk. But this report without an admin name is pretty useless.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 23:29
by BaNa
sillynanny wrote:BaNa wrote:I recently played a game where an admin (his name i forget, but mephisto was ingame, he heard our complaints) kicked someone from the enemy team for outplaying him (his ass got dropped on). I hope that guy is no longer admin, but TBH meph didn't seem too taken by it, he kind of ignored the whole thing.
Meph is often afk. But this report without an admin name is pretty useless.
Meph was playing so i doubt he was afk.
I checked the re and it was firestalker.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 01:24
by sillynanny
BaNa wrote:
I checked the re and it was firestalker.
Cool. Send me the replay. Upload it somewhere if you can, please.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 03:06
by BaNa
sillynanny wrote:BaNa wrote:
I checked the re and it was firestalker.
Cool. Send me the replay. Upload it somewhere if you can, please.
http://replays.adune.nl/?act=replay&id=203
here you go. you may need to rename your BA to BA631-1 ...
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 11:28
by drolito
The other bots have no admin and no problem ... i dont understand why put "rules" ...
i think its only the willingness of a child to use the limited power he may have ...
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 13:33
by sillynanny
Firestalker is no longer admin at the lair. Thank you for the replay.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 13:41
by sillynanny
drolito wrote:Ti dont understand why put "rules" ...
What rules? Don't kill your team? Yeah man we're total fascists. You can join the roll clan and fight the powa.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 14:21
by KingRaptor
drolito wrote:The other bots have no admin and no problem ... i dont understand why put "rules" ...
this from the guy who kicks people for comdropping on altored
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 22:32
by Mephistos
BaNa wrote:I recently played a game where an admin (his name i forget, but mephisto was ingame, he heard our complaints) kicked someone from the enemy team for outplaying him (his ass got dropped on). I hope that guy is no longer admin, but TBH meph didn't seem too taken by it, he kind of ignored the whole thing.
The individual in question no longer has admin privs. I was there I handled it, so your claim that "nothing was done" is bunk.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 22:37
by Mephistos
You know, there's a lot of "bla bla bla injustice, wrong, bla bla they did that" that's completely unsubstantiated. To the fellow who provided the replay: Thanks. That's better.
However I was there at the time - when it happened it was raised to be on the spot. I gave the admin in question - who has been a problem in the past - I gave him a LOT OF SHIT.
What he did was completely unacceptable. And I suspect that a lot of the bullshit complaints about some of my other admins have been related to what he's also done...
So as for having "bad" or "crappy" admins. Well, one is gone. I've gotten rid of another one in the past too: [BLC]Bobbleurman.
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Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 22:39
by Otherside
i still dont get all the drama over a BA dsd autohost O_o
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 11:33
by sillynanny
The drama is mostly here. In the autohost itself people just play.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 11:40
by Otherside
what i meant is most games hosted are BA and the map played the most is DSD so find a BADSD game isnt hard if your banned big whoop... Its not like ur limited on choices...
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 13 Sep 2008, 15:50
by bobbelurman
What he did was completely unacceptable. And I suspect that a lot of the bullshit complaints about some of my other admins have been related to what he's also done...
So as for having "bad" or "crappy" admins. Well, one is gone. I've gotten rid of another one in the past too: [BLC]Bobbleurman.
Yeah that was probably a good idea, its not like I've ever adminned any of the long-time respected bots, nor did i either host any big team games of my own. So obviously I probably suck a lot at hosting. And when u have lvl3 non-owner admins that start removing other admins' rights for this and that reasons...meh no wonder u get a phailhost.
FUCKFACE.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 14 Sep 2008, 13:02
by sillynanny
Q.E.D.
Re: Mephistos Lair Ban Policy Revision
Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 00:42
by Mephistos
bobbelurman wrote:
Yeah that was probably a good idea, its not like I've ever adminned any of the long-time respected bots, nor did i either host any big team games of my own. So obviously I probably suck a lot at hosting. And when u have lvl3 non-owner admins that start removing other admins' rights for this and that reasons...meh no wonder u get a phailhost.
Yeah, a host so "phail" that you were banned after you kept showing up in the battle room to advertise other games... That sounds pretty damn phail to me.
So why does that make you so sore not to be admin on it now,if you have rights on so many respected, established (might I add often empty) bots?
Oh wait, did I mention the empty part? Oops. I guess I answered my own question.