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Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 21:54
by espylaub
I found the Leejen's LOS appallingly short for a scout unit. I built a few in 1.48, when the Voyeur was missing, but I found them ultimately useless. The sight range is really too short. I mean, you're not going to send them into an enemy base to waste them, spybots can do that better without getting killed. I wanted the Leejen to support long range bots, you know, group them with morties and it's sight range will show the morties what to shoot at. But now that the Voyeur is back, I'm not sure what the Leejen could be used for at all.
Except suicide bombings.
But I haven't tried that yet.
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 22:03
by FireCrack
I cannot count how many times i've won a game just because I rushed to air early and used 6 atlases to airdrop a squad of peewees/thuds in the back of an enemy base....
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 22:17
by Egarwaen
Forboding Angel wrote:@ cabbage: nope, ak's do fuckall to exploiters and its really quite uncool imo. THings like unit specific damage of scouts is just dumb. It would be more useful to give them a higher refire rate or higher damage and faster turnrate. That way, you must be dedicated to taking it out cause 3-5 ak's or peewees probably isn't going to cut it.
Check the changelog. After a bunch of people bitching at me for five pages because I kept providing math demonstrating how rediculously over-efficient Exploiters were even compared to other units with anti-raider armor, Caydr just dropped the anti-raider armor.
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 22:21
by Machiosabre
Forboding Angel wrote:
@ cabbage: nope, ak's do fuckall to exploiters and its really quite uncool imo. THings like unit specific damage of scouts is just dumb. It would be more useful to give them a higher refire rate or higher damage and faster turnrate. That way, you must be dedicated to taking it out cause 3-5 ak's or peewees probably isn't going to cut it.
I sent 20 ak's at a lv1 exploiter the other day and lost all my ak's with hardly any noticeable damage to the expoiter. That was really, really, annoying.
antiraider defence got removed already
check 1.5
e: ah beat me to it
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 22:39
by Comp1337
Give the leejen a crawling bomb blast, but only if it is selfdestructed, and give it a 10-15 sec timer?
HEADSMACK!
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 22:56
by Pxtl
I just got the name. leejen. Reckless kbot that runs into combat unarmed.
:p
*sigh*
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 23:12
by Cabbage
Ah i thought i saw changing armed mexes to a normal armour class or whatever in the last changelog.
anyway...
Forboding angel Wrote:
20 ak's at a lv1 exploiter the other day and lost all my ak's with hardly any noticeable damage to the expoiter.
Thats either a lie or you sent them at it one by one, it takes half that number of peewees/A.K's to take out an exploiter if they attack as a group.
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 23:18
by Neddie
I've taken exploiters with nine AKs and ten Peewees, respectively.
I guess what I'm really saying here is that Cabbage is right. Now, if he hadn't kicked my ass less than ten minutes ago...
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 23:19
by Cabbage
Machio Wrote:
antiraider defence got removed already Rolling Eyes check 1.5
Ahh in that case, a fair few less than 10 is should be needed
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 23:20
by Cabbage
neddiedrow Wrote:
I guess what I'm really saying here is that Cabbage is right. Now, if he hadn't kicked my ass less than ten minutes ago...
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 23:29
by Egarwaen
Cabbage wrote:Ahh in that case, a fair few less than 10 is should be needed
Well, take whatever you need to kill an LLT (on open ground, if you know where it is... Four?) and double it, as the Exploiter has twice the HP. So still eight-ish?
Of course, that's assuming there aren't any other things with guns lingering nearby.
Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 00:04
by Kixxe
Btw, when was the last time you saw someone build level 1 vechile factory as first fac and succed with it?
I don't know why, but for some reason vechiles (espeacly core) get pwned like nothing aginst K-bots!
Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 00:05
by Day
erm, about the Fidos, they are currently insane, small packs of fidos can beat almost anything,
they could use a nerf, as in more buildtime or less HP
Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 00:14
by Cabbage
just more build time imo
Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 00:25
by Caydr
Fido: 50 less HP, 5% longer buildtime. Done. Gotta post this new version quick, since 1.5 will crash with .72.
Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 00:29
by Soulless1
gogogo, i wanna test the new version with my favourite mod
Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 00:29
by DoubleNeg
if anyone can hack out a quick release Caydr, I know it's you.
Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 00:29
by Cabbage
lol i thought that said 50% less HP for a second
Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 00:51
by Forboding Angel
Cabbage wrote:Ah i thought i saw changing armed mexes to a normal armour class or whatever in the last changelog.
anyway...
Forboding angel Wrote:
20 ak's at a lv1 exploiter the other day and lost all my ak's with hardly any noticeable damage to the expoiter.
Thats either a lie or you sent them at it one by one, it takes half that number of peewees/A.K's to take out an exploiter if they attack as a group.
I'm guessing it was 1.48 and I didn't realize. Sorry about that.
Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 01:10
by Caydr