Duck wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 10:51
Well afaik Forbs helped Floris with lightning and projectiles changes
False. I implemented resources.lua and provided him with my generic CEG set that is designed to be easy to use to create your own effects.
These effects are the default effects in evo. If you look at evo, you will see that they are entirely different. Floris did all that on his own. Fun fact, I even resisted his effects at first, but then he polished them and they look amazing now.
Duck wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 10:51
some other effects too that already changed the balance. E.g. missiles behaviour change that had huge impact on the balance already.
False. Floris did that because he wanted it to look good. I argued that the improvement in visuals wasn't worth the impact to functionality.
Duck wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 10:51
These modoptions are a joke too, so different from BA mechanics that it's ridiculous.
First off, BA wasn't always the way it is now. And BA is nothing like OTA, unlike what some of you claim. In fact, my modoptions implemented a lot of OTA style behavior. Regardless, they were defaulted to off, and were never released in an intentional version anyway. The point of having a git repo is being able to develop and test things, and specifically to be able to test ideas. As Rapid is incapable of working with branches, using a modoption within the game is the next best choice, because then it allows for online testing via test versions.
Duck wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 10:51
Problem with Frobs is that he disrespects BA players and thinks he knows better because is some dying game developer too.
I don't disrespect BA players in general. I disrespect people such as yourself and the rest of your little friends who run around using racial and homophobic slurs casually. I have zero respect for anyone like that. Respect is earned, and you and your ilk are in a negative deficit.
Duck wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 10:51
He should just stay silent, his opinion about BA is worthless, because like i said he doesn't understand it
That's interesting. You apparently aren't aware that at one point I was one of the better players. The only person I consistently lost to was Drexion. Noize and I used to have some fairly epic 1v1s back in the day. I've been playing OTA and various *A themed mods since 1997. I've been working on my own spring game since 2008 and in 2007 worked on my own little silly *A themed project. Before that I worked with Fang, smoth and others on EE.
Before that I made no less than 150 maps for spring. High quality terrain and textures that were unheard of at the time. Some of which had a lot of popularity in BA in the past (and a few that still do to some extent).
I have a lot of experience with the engine, how it functions, and how a change will have subtle effects. It's been a long road, but for someone to suggest that I don't know what I'm doing is naive at best, just plain idiotic at worst.
Duck wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 10:51so adding random changes even if it's a modoption is crazy.
The whole point of using a modoption is to allow online testing without affecting the core game. If you can't understand this very simple concept, then you're a moron.
Duck wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 10:51
Sadly i'm not used to lua code or game development, so i cant get much info from his commits.
So basically, you have no idea wtf you're talking about. I already knew that, but it's entertaining to hear it from the horses mouth.
Duck wrote: ↑30 Nov 2018, 10:51
But long time ago after Forbs "help" to BA i saw a conversation where Forbs tried to prove that his changes had no impact on balance, but Nix proved him wrong and denied all his harmless claims.
You would need to provide specifics. There is a difference between a meaningful impact on balance and an impact that doesn't really have much sway. I was in general arguing for the latter. As a result, it's possible that the meta might shift a small amount, but if that shift results in a net positive for both gameplay and the meta, then it is a good thing.
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back to the "Harming BA" thing...
I spent a week or two slaving away to update BA to modern lua internals, and implementing tools for floris to use so that he wouldn't be left high and dry with new updated internals (There were several things BA was doing that wasn't easily compatible with newer internals).
After that, I continued to give my support and help whenever he needed it. I built a website for BA. I set up hosts for BA and went the extra step of making them so that floris, triton, doo and pta could operate them how they pleased without needing to ask me (except for new engines).
I continue to provide support to both of them (although it is much less needed at this point).
In-Line Edit: Oh, and I implemented a VASTLY improved and FIXED chickens into BA. You're welcome.
Your arrogance and idiocy has blinded you to the truth of the matter. You jumped on Ares bandwagon without even bothering to do some very simple and basic fact checking. You should be ashamed of yourself. YOU are the cancer that is killing BA, not I. If anything I tried to help keep BA alive. The funny thing is, I got tons of shit from the other gamedevs in this community for helping BA. Some very prominent people here were upset with me for helping to update it. I suppose they were of the mind that without outside help it would wither and die on an old engine version. I doubt it. We should all be so lucky.
You and the toxic elements of your community suck, you are a fucking disgrace. You should be ashamed of yourselves for not bothering to do even a modicum of research or fact checking. There are many in your community who are indeed good people and very pleasant. I have no quarrel with them, but I'll be damned if I sit idly by (like the engine devs and lobby moderators have done for the past 10 years) ignoring the toxicity that breeds itself in your community. If spring were a pair of underwear, you and your ilk are the bacon strips within.
Now, kindly, Get bent.