Sleksa wrote:Gota wrote:
Iran doesn't have to use its nuclear weapon directly.
It can use Hezbollah.
except a nuke going off there would kill off other muslims too, destroy locations important for all 3 religions (jews christians and muslims) , severe health and enviroimental effects. Whoever pulls the trigger will be facing total annihilation from every possible direction (west, other arabic nations, possibly even russia)
Another point is just the deterrent it poses.
For example.
Hezbollah start shooting at Israel Iran declares it will nuke Israel if Israel retaliates to Hezbollah or some other similar scenario where Iran uses its power to slow erode Israel's ability to resist any attack.
Think about it from iran's point of view, they've been in us embargo for years, the whole west keeps pressuring them, they have oil and they know west wants it, us/israeli rhetoric about surgical strikes on iran are hardly friendly. A nuke would make the ultimate deterrent against any invasion or attack, let alone the political boost ahmejinedad would gain from it, i see no reason from iran point of view NOT to get nukes
I dont know what Israel's top military and government heads know but i sure hope they have some way of dealing with this bullshit.
having a nuclear iran with its current government is a very dangerous reality for Israel.
propably yes, but you have to wonder if it is the right time to resort in the military to handle a delicate timebomb situation ~_~
If what we simple people know about the situation is not far from what the guys with all the intel know,than no,i would not see bombing all nuclear technology related structures and infrustructe in Iran a bad move or morally wrong.
well israel doesnt seem to think there's any wrong in pushing the palestinian people around however they want, or mossad going around killing people around the world, or fully attacking other countries(lebanon) or using banned weaponry (cluster munition white phosporous, what else dont we know about?), attacking some buildings in iran is hardly atrocious compared to these
I dont know if your aware of it but Israel has done it before.
yeah guess you guys want a best of 3 or best of 5 match then?
Ah i hate multiple quotes..
First of all it doesnt have to be a nuclear bomb jsut a dirty one would do.
Second of all they have no problem with killing muslims(you think they care about muslims?) they have done it many times,hell you think there were no muslims in WTC or in the tens of buses that were blown up in israel?
How about when you send rockets you can never know if they hit jews or muslims..
same thing with these "flotillas" if they really cared about muslims they would send aid to african countries where muslim kids are actually starving to death.nobody is starving to death in the gaza strip.
all they care about is the ongoing fight and scoring points versus Israel in whatever way possible.
Now Iran has been in embargo by the US because of the hijacking of us citizens right after the revoluton during jimmy carters presidency,after that crazy incident us and IRan parted ways,initially the US didnt want to be in bad relations with iran,even post revolution Iran.
Also so what if there is an embargo on iran by the US?how does that somehow mean they suddenly need to get nuclear weapons?
Israeli rethotic about surgical strikes only came after many threats of ahmedinadjad to wipe out israel not that Israle didnt know how was standing behind hezbullah and syria..so dont make it into the us/Israel being somehow provocative towards the peaceful iran..seriously..
Your one sided arguemtns have always annoyed me and tbh i dont see why you keep bothering throwing these things at me ...
I know that you made up your mind and i know roughly what your opinion is even though i personally think its based more or less on scavenged bits of information.
All these comments about the palestinians hold absolutely no relevance to this discussion and its a gigantic area that im not gonna go into in this thread.
second of all all special agencies work in roughly the same way so im not even gonna comment on that part any more.
Invasion into lebanon was not initiated by Israel plus it is they who are constantly threatening to destory Israel,Israel has absolutely no desire to invade and hold Lebanon or we would have.
The war was completely by their order and will.
You should provide some sources for your white phosperous claim.
As far as i remmeber thouse were invaldi accusations since it was indeed used but in accordance to international law for ilumination or smoke.
If Israel really would have used phosphorous to bomb targets believe me there would be no way of denying it.
I never looked into the other things.