OMG STOP OVERUSING LUA

[TradeMark]

I'd argue that OpenGL is "up" agnostic, it doesn't
really care what the Xs, Ys, and Zs refer to.

Note that it could be argued that OpenGL's default
"up" coordinate is Z, if you consider looking down at
the terrain as default view point (OpenGL's Z
defaults to the axis that is normal to the screen, ie:
in and out of the screen).

exactly, when all angles are zero, it looks down, thats why x,z,y as standard is bullcrap.

[Tobi]

That's why we use x,y,z

[TradeMark]

StartPosX=1806;
StartPosZ=1481;

[Forboding Angel]

StartPosX=1806;
StartPosZ=1481;

Hahahaha!

So wait, we should introduce a Y into start positions so that commanding units spawn in midair? Good argument

[KDR_11k]

It's entirely arbitrary and even differs between the major 3D graphics packages (MAX and Maya).

[Tobi]

StartPosX=1806;
StartPosZ=1481;

This works too:

StartPosZ=1481;
StartPosX=1806;

[TradeMark]

StartPosX=1806;
StartPosZ=1481;

Hahahaha!

So wait, we should introduce a Y into start positions so that commanding units spawn in midair? Good argument

HAHHAHAHAAHAHHA what? no... fail troll.

StartPosX=1806;
StartPosZ=1481;

This works too:

StartPosZ=1481;
StartPosX=1806;

This doesnt:

StartPosX=1481;
StartPosY=1806;

[imbaczek]

and it won't.

[jK]

You can write some Lua to make it work. >_<

[TradeMark]

Make it work. or else...

[lurker]

The point, trademark, is that the coordinate system is ...,y,z,x,y,z,x,y,z,x,y,... no matter which way it faces.

DirectX prefers to use left-handed mode, where one axis is inverted and geometry cries.

[Caydr]

Lua is great, what's going to happen, some random guy makes a unilateral change that breaks every script that's ever been made? With no backwards compatibility? As if to say "I did this on a bet"?

[trepan]

From an external app's perspective (ex: modinfo), that
still wouldn't matter as long as the unitsync interface is
being used to gather the information (ex: lua2php).

[TradeMark]

The point, trademark, is that the coordinate system is ...,y,z,x,y,z,x,y,z,x,y,... no matter which way it faces.

DirectX prefers to use left-handed mode, where one axis is inverted and geometry cries.

AFAIK Spring uses OpenGL....

and IIRC OpenGL or DirectX doesnt even refer to X,Y or Z any way.

It makes most sense to use XYZ since the game is top-down view, and when you use 0,0,0 rotation it points from top to down.

[AF]

It makes most sense to use XYZ since the game is top-down view, and when you use 0,0,0 rotation it points from top to down.

Com shooter didnt do top down....

[aegis]

and IIRC OpenGL or DirectX doesnt even refer to X,Y or Z any way.

so wrong.

[TradeMark]

It makes most sense to use XYZ since the game is top-down view, and when you use 0,0,0 rotation it points from top to down.

Com shooter didnt do top down....

whole spring engine default view is top-down... unless you lua it

[aegis]

whole spring engine

only because TA was top-down.

[TradeMark]

makes more sense its XYZ since map textures use 2d image that is based on XY coordinates.

[1v0ry_k1ng]

so true