Why spring doesnt qualify as an open source project
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Why spring doesnt qualify as an open source project
it doesn't accept donations other than money.
As many of you know, the lobby server is lagging, alot, all the time, even now with only 81 people in main it is lagging.
I have offered a server which will most likely solve all lag isues, one of the reason it is NOT being used is because i am not on best of terms with the person who makes these desicions
now, i am aware of at least two other people who have also offered to give servers to this project simply to stop the lag. however the person in charge of this does not want a third party...... anything.
offers made
current server = dual 500MHZ
my 3 servers ->
1 x 3GHZ
2 x 2.5 GHZ
Dedalus's Server ->
1 x 2.4 GHZ
Ufearerer's Server ->
Unknown Stats
I do not care if the lobby server is not moved to my server, i just want the lag fixed. i was told that i should host my own server separate to the main server and just advertise it on unknown files etc... and i think this would work however it would also split the community and it just wouldn't look good for a game that has so much promise.
please, person in charge of the lobby server, make use of what is on offer instead of rejecting it simply because you wish to have sole access to stuff.
(this argument can also be put forward for "why has unknown files not been used for built in downloads?" - The reason is the same as stated above)
also, there is no need to quote messages from me trying to discredit me, i can do that myself thank you.
As many of you know, the lobby server is lagging, alot, all the time, even now with only 81 people in main it is lagging.
I have offered a server which will most likely solve all lag isues, one of the reason it is NOT being used is because i am not on best of terms with the person who makes these desicions
now, i am aware of at least two other people who have also offered to give servers to this project simply to stop the lag. however the person in charge of this does not want a third party...... anything.
offers made
current server = dual 500MHZ
my 3 servers ->
1 x 3GHZ
2 x 2.5 GHZ
Dedalus's Server ->
1 x 2.4 GHZ
Ufearerer's Server ->
Unknown Stats
I do not care if the lobby server is not moved to my server, i just want the lag fixed. i was told that i should host my own server separate to the main server and just advertise it on unknown files etc... and i think this would work however it would also split the community and it just wouldn't look good for a game that has so much promise.
please, person in charge of the lobby server, make use of what is on offer instead of rejecting it simply because you wish to have sole access to stuff.
(this argument can also be put forward for "why has unknown files not been used for built in downloads?" - The reason is the same as stated above)
also, there is no need to quote messages from me trying to discredit me, i can do that myself thank you.
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- Tim Blokdijk
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Re: Why spring doesnt qualify as an open source project
And who is that? Jelmer, Betalord, Tobi and/or Fnordia ??iamacup wrote:... because i am not on best of terms with the person who makes these desicions
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You know, I'm getting really sick of these "problems" developers seem to have without any real indication on why or what.
PLEASE, (and I say this in general) if you have anything more official then some informal chat, use the mailinglist!
It allows ALL people involved with the project to respond and stay up to date with developments. And disagreements can be mediated to, something that is impossible on IRC and other private communication tools.
true but it made you read this thread, see belowkujeger wrote:These issues have nothing at all to do with spring's OSS status.
betalordTim Blokdijk wrote:And who is that? Jelmer, Betalord, Tobi and/or Fnordia ??iamacup wrote:... because i am not on best of terms with the person who makes these desicions
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You know, I'm getting really sick of these "problems" developers seem to have without any real indication on why or what.
PLEASE, (and I say this in general) if you have anything more official then some informal chat, use the mailinglist!
It allows ALL people involved with the project to respond and stay up to date with developments. And disagreements can be mediated to, something that is impossible on IRC and other private communication tools.
betalordpintle wrote:i dont care how it is done, but the lag needs fixing. This seems to be to be a very easy way of fixing teh lag, and improving spring at the same time.
Could the person who makes this decision, if not willing to engage in this forum, PM me the reason or reasons against using these servers please.
the point is, you have so many people who want to help the project with new servers and stuff, and Any other open source project with problems that could be fixed by donations would accept them.
thats why this is not a real open source project , considering open source software runs only because of donations (time, servers, money) you would think this problem would have been resolved. i only posted this to bring into the open this problem which has been going on for a LONG TIME!
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I don't understand involving the open source aspect in this discussion. (aside from Cup just trying to get people to read this :))
What I'm wondering is why the server has started lagging so much in the first place. It seems like it didn't start happening until this newest spring version; did hosts move, or some lobby code get changed (besides the obvious)? The svn, webpage, and lobby aren't on the same server; Hmm, well do they share the same bandwidth then?
I do think something needs to be done about the lag. The only argument I've seen for not moving to a better equipped computer is that you (spring devs, betalord, whoever) won't be in control of it. Well if having access to that machine isn't enough, why not using server.clan-sy.com (or whatever) to redirect to the 'new' lobby server. Then if for some strange reason the new host becomes unacceptable, switching back to the old server would be as easy as making server.clan-sy.com redirect back to the old servers. Personally I don't care who hosts the server (its not like they would get any recognition or monetary value for doing it), but anything done to improve the situation would be appreciated.
What I'm wondering is why the server has started lagging so much in the first place. It seems like it didn't start happening until this newest spring version; did hosts move, or some lobby code get changed (besides the obvious)? The svn, webpage, and lobby aren't on the same server; Hmm, well do they share the same bandwidth then?
I do think something needs to be done about the lag. The only argument I've seen for not moving to a better equipped computer is that you (spring devs, betalord, whoever) won't be in control of it. Well if having access to that machine isn't enough, why not using server.clan-sy.com (or whatever) to redirect to the 'new' lobby server. Then if for some strange reason the new host becomes unacceptable, switching back to the old server would be as easy as making server.clan-sy.com redirect back to the old servers. Personally I don't care who hosts the server (its not like they would get any recognition or monetary value for doing it), but anything done to improve the situation would be appreciated.
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