Flat surfaces and reflections?

[smoth]

I was looking at some issues with the reflections in spring and noticed how curved surfaces have much higher detailed reflections. So I stepped back and turned just reflections on in my shader.

You'll notice how great the spheres look and how unpleasant the mech looks...


so then I said, well maybe it is just flat surfaces..

Oddly it isn't lower resolution as much as it looks like flat surfaces have a zoomed in appearance. Now you could say, well is it your shader. NOPE. I tested in several other games.

Why didn't you notice until now? Truthfully, we didn't make that much of a usage of just reflection. Specular always obscured it when reflection was really high, so was specular.

so I created a new test unit to look at it


all images are clickable to larger versions

is there a way to tell spring, hey I WANT a higher resolution reflection cubemap to be generated? maybe that can mitigate this issue?

[Kloot]

CubeTexSizeSpecular=X
CubeTexSizeReflection=Y

(springsettings.cfg)

[smoth]

<3 thanks kloot!

[PicassoCT]

Thanks for the R&D smoth

[smoth]

is there a way to set the reflection size in game? as in if the camera is y distance above ground, a sort of LOD?

[gajop]

Can we see the screens when you fixed it? What values did you use?

[PicassoCT]

Question, is the reflection map also small when you use a smoothgroup that covers the whole robot(piece)?

[smoth]

Can we see the screens when you fixed it? What values did you use?

The default was 128, what I have come to realize is the curved surface distorted the reflections in such a way that it *appears* to be much crisper.

Look closely at the thighs and shoulder armor. ESP the one in the back on the left side.

this is what it looks like by default(128):

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this is what it looks like at my current setting (1024)

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I didn't have soley the reflections on at the time I took the pictures, sorry.