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Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 00:05
by Gurkha
Can't you already make this using photoshop, the texture of the ground, one texture with the same size of metal, and making an alpha mask with the metalmap in greyscale?
yes, I suppose you could, but it'd be a bit of a pain to position it perfectly on yuor texture map. Instead you just make the large texture map and the map 'compiler' (for want of a better word) would then alpha it out to reveal mateal wherever on the metalmap a certain threshold was met.

Rightfield. You seem to be under a certain misimpression. If I could draw I wouldn't be using photoshop.

Oh, and I used: rendering clouds, layers, motion blur, more layers, edge detect, colour inversion, craclquer and some colour levels fiddling (off the top of my head, I may have used more). It's not just one filter.

Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 14:24
by RightField
Not really. Even I can churn out better with PSP 9, and that without drawing.


Posted: 18 Jul 2005, 19:41
by Min3mat
ooh! i like that one!

Posted: 19 Jul 2005, 01:19
by [K.B.] Napalm Cobra
Very crystaline, nice.

Posted: 19 Jul 2005, 13:32
by Doomweaver
Anyone got any ideas for how to have something like a visible metal patch, but not as lame as a patch of metal? I have been thinking about this for years, but come up with nothing :cry:

Posted: 19 Jul 2005, 13:35
by shnorb
to be totally honest i fucking hate metal patches with a passion... i think that metal deposits should be expressed through terrain textures such as the good ol core prime ground (and of course others). otherwise it is just so unrealistic.

Posted: 19 Jul 2005, 14:49
by Weaver
I am convert to the spring metal deposit system, I dont think we really need metal patches at all unless we want to be able to faithfully remake classic OTA maps. If we really must have suface indication of metal then a small hue shift in the terrain texture could work quite well.

Posted: 19 Jul 2005, 16:31
by AF
Have you not noticed that there are no metal patches in spring? Just varied amounts and distributions and maybe some maps where ther're concentrated spots.

Eitherway I think they'd look best incorporated into the map texture as a streak of metal like they have coal in hills etc. Doing what ahs bene showed above is regression and doesnt fit with the engines 3D aspects. For example imagine palcing one of thsoe ontop of a metal deposit at the top fo a hil? Wouldnt ti eb odd having it there sitting flat with the ground falling away udner it? And can we afford to remodel every single patch to fit the terrain contours?

If you want metal patches do what people have done so far.

Posted: 19 Jul 2005, 18:36
by mongus
how bout, in addition to at surface level metal, metal deposits that are at a lower level, so, mining, (with explosive mines) must be done in order to get there. Also, a deep minning unit exclusive for this kind of job can do it too...
another unit could be a detector, determinning where are this underground metal patches.

it souds lame yeah, and slow...
maybe for some adv resources management system.
not for current game play.

Posted: 19 Jul 2005, 18:39
by Gabba
Yeah I agree with Alantai, Weaver and shnorb above. Spring's metal map is much cooler than "metal patches". We just need some nice textures for zones with really high concentration, but that's about it.

Posted: 19 Jul 2005, 20:17
by AF
In which case the examples above are reminiscent of scratchy stone like metal. And metals do not look like stones save those in ore form. Shiny, like lead or steel thats melted and formed a shiny silvery surface. Or maybe just a bit where the ground is slightly greyer and brighter than usual.

Posted: 20 Jul 2005, 13:58
by shnorb
i think that if ground textures are to reflect in anyway metal deposits it should be something like this...

you could have the metal deposits situated where the rockier ground is... i think that would make more sense, and look better.

Posted: 20 Jul 2005, 18:17
by Gabba
yes that shot is a great example

Posted: 20 Jul 2005, 20:36
by AF
Why cant we have a map like that?

Posted: 21 Jul 2005, 14:05
by zwzsg
Ashpen has such nicely blended metal patches.