New Spring-authentic map: Altored Mars v2

Storm · Post by **Storm** » 01 May 2005, 23:36

Uh, it was MH2 I blanked, out of courtesy, not to be rude, even if looked like it. I put it back up because you gave a valid argument.

I haven't got around uploading Caydr's map though. The self-installer on the other map simply refuses to be uploaded (explorer crashes for me) and as for this, I thought I could just wait two days to get the final version.

[K.B.] Napalm Cobra · Post by **[K.B.] Napalm Cobra** » 02 May 2005, 07:08

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, explorer, oh what a n00b.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 May 2005, 07:48

would you people please stop this asinine browser war garbage.

That being said. I played the map. I couldn't realy make out enough to do much. BUT It does show room for new possibilities. Although I wish the interface was not obscured.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 02 May 2005, 09:23

I reduced the fog and reposted it, try it again and see what you think.

Storm · Post by **Storm** » 02 May 2005, 11:16

I don't like Opera and FireFox messes some sites up.

Warlord Zsinj · Post by **Warlord Zsinj** » 02 May 2005, 15:14

Wow, I like the look of that. It is very atmospheric indeed. I wonder what a well placed lens-flare would do to that image, with a red-hot sun...

However, I do think that from the screenshots you have provided, it is too thick to be playable.

To be honest, that would be cool as a weather effect (Assuming they ever put that in), so that one moment the map is a rather clear mars map, and the next a Martian dust storm descends (with howling wind to boot

), and the map turns into a complete soup, changing gameplay completely. Then, just as quickly as it arrives, it disappears again...

mufdvr222 · Post by **mufdvr222** » 05 May 2005, 01:41

Caydr wrote:Yes, that's what I was going for. I wanted it to be as real as possible, even if that means a realistic mars-ish atmosphere.

Needs more metal... mars IS all iron oxide hence the "rust" look.
There would need to be oxygen for there to be any kind of oxide. Just because the moon is white doesn't mean it's all calcium

Sorry Caydr,, Mars is indeed red because of iron oxides in various forms,,rust.
Would look better if the sky was more butterscotch in colour and visability is much better for the most part on Mars.

This image is in aproximate true colour

SporkNinja · Post by **SporkNinja** » 05 May 2005, 04:37

its not that bad. It seems i always see that map up like out 1/10 rooms. Heck the screen shots make it more foggier imho. When i tested this out yea you can notice the fog but it is playable it didn't hinder my vision.

Storm · Post by **Storm** » 05 May 2005, 10:19

That's because he changed it, Ninja.

zwzsg · Post by **zwzsg** » 05 May 2005, 12:40

Yes, new version is much more playable.

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 04 Jun 2005, 02:42

[quote="mufdvr222]
This image is in aproximate true colour
[/quote]

That looks sorta like Arizona

Can ANYONE explain to me what the decimal values in the SMD mean and how they translate into actual colors?

Like:
SunColor=1.2 0.6 0.4;

1.2?? wtf? Can anyone shed LIGHT on the subject for me please.

^_^

-Buggi

zwzsg · Post by **zwzsg** » 05 Jun 2005, 00:44

1.2 gets truncated to 1.0

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 05 Jun 2005, 01:21

So they ARE in percents!

Is that percent of RGB or CMYK percents?

Gnomre · Post by **Gnomre** » 05 Jun 2005, 01:44

If it's anything like the internal GUI code in the source, it's RGB, where 0 0 0 is black and 1 1 1 is white. Heck, I could probably whip up a simple commandline app to convert 0-255 RGB values or possibly HTML hex values to the 0-1 scale spring uses... though I'm sure that's what you're planning on doing for your new map compiler, so I'll just leave it to you

zwzsg · Post by **zwzsg** » 05 Jun 2005, 01:47

Percent? Why you got that idea? No it's RGB values, between 0 and 1.

Gnomre · Post by **Gnomre** » 05 Jun 2005, 01:56

Remember how you convert a decimal to a percent, zwzsg? That's what he means.

zwzsg · Post by **zwzsg** » 05 Jun 2005, 02:10

To convert a decimal to a percent you multiply it by 100, right?

That doesn't explain why he called "percent" values between 0.0 and 1.0.

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 05 Jun 2005, 02:50

Jesus people...

if
1.0 == full
0.0 == none

and in the RGB world
0xFF == full
0x00 == none

so,
0xFF == 255
therefore 1.0 == 0xFF ?

But 0x00 = 0 = 0.0

assuming 0.6 0.0 0.0 is 60% red, 0% green and 0% blue

60% of 255 = 153

so for SunColor=1.2 0.6 0.4;
truncated to 1.0 0.6 and 0.4

Would be RGB of r255 g153 b102

Which DOES NOT EQUAL the color of the sun. (it's redish if you use the original values)

So the question stands, what's the game doing with the colors?

-Buggi

Gnomre · Post by **Gnomre** » 05 Jun 2005, 03:17

Hey now... I was just commenting on what it'd be if it was handled the same way as the GUI. I wasn't saying I knew for sure if that's how map values are also handled...

zwzsg · Post by **zwzsg** » 06 Jun 2005, 02:17

I always assumed that to get a color of r255 g153 b102 I need a suncolor of of 1.0 0.6 and 0.4, and always got the color I was looking for.

(Save when I tried to get a sun darker than sky, and when the the below horizon color or fog color messed with my sky.)

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New Spring-authentic map: Altored Mars v2