Agenda
- welcome
- protocol on web
- CHANGEEMAIL
- FORCEJOIN/!join progress
- SAYBATTLEPRIVATE & SAYBATTLEPRIVATEEX proposal
- remaining uberserver commands
- server development/documentation / what was done this week
- [V]sheep
- BrainDamage
- _koshi_
- Licho[0K]
- [ARP]hoijui_irc
[ARP]hoijui_irc: rollin
Agenda Item 1:welcome -------------------------
_koshi_: i'll volunteer for minutes today
_koshi_: since i'll prolly need to tweak bot anyhow
[ARP]hoijui_irc: thanks
Agenda Item 2:protocol on web -------------------------
_koshi_: http://springrts.com/dl/LobbyProtocol/ now is updated daily from master, thanks to abma
_koshi_: nothing more to say about that I guess
Licho[0K]: pretty
_koshi_: if you get the protocol git and have xsltproc installed you can generate that too btw
Licho[0K]: whats the meeting plan? Can i ask about FORCEJOIN/!join progress?
_koshi_: after the next one
Licho[0K]: its still not on the uberserver .. i guess there is no chance you would implement !join as suggested originally..
Agenda Item 3:CHANGEEMAIL -------------------------
_koshi_: only admin can change other users email? or moderator too?
Licho[0K]: moderator too .. seems like common thing people forget/enter faulty stuff
_koshi_: moderator should be able too
[ARP]hoijui_irc: the protocol doc sais only adin
Licho[0K]: and moderators should be reliable
[ARP]hoijui_irc: i agree, moderators shoudl be able to do it too
_koshi_: alright, i'll fix the wording then
[ARP]hoijui_irc: thanks
_koshi_: does the email have to be unique, or can multiple account have the same email set?
_koshi_: i've skimmed the last minutes,
_koshi_: and we agreed multiple accounts with same email to be ok
[ARP]hoijui_irc: moderators are called priviledged in SpringLS source (and TASServer), dunnu about ueberserver
[ARP]hoijui_irc: ok, thanks
[ARP]hoijui_irc: i stumbled over these two things when trying to implement CHANGEEMAIL
[ARP]hoijui_irc: now should be doable
_koshi_: alright
Licho[0K]: tbh i woul devne request unique email and registration through mail but thats different topic
Licho[0K]: to reduce smurfing a bit
[V]sheep: would need to accomodate for bots
_koshi_: I don't have much hope that the unique requirement would actually dent smurfing
[V]sheep: if you allow single email-multiple account, at least you can quickly figure out farmers/smurfs
[V]sheep: unless they take care
_koshi_: it's a trap!
Licho[0K]: if its voluntary email .. i dunno if they enter it
[V]sheep: oh true
Licho[0K]: i use simple 1234 password for everything, including all autohosts and my licho account
Licho[0K]: and it works
[V]sheep: will be nice in the minutes :)
Agenda Item 4:FORCEJOIN/!join progress -------------------------
[ARP]hoijui_irc: well.. FORCEJOIN is still implemented in SringLS, and i guess nobody really knows about ueberserver
_koshi_: unless aegis has coded in secret, he has as far as i can see did nothing towards any of the changes discussed in the last meetings
[ARP]hoijui_irc: ok
_koshi_: and no, I don't want to implemented !join. Even less since I've implemented FORCEJOIN
Licho[0K]: i checked uberserver, its not there
_koshi_: anything else on this item?
[V]sheep: ... no it seems
BrainDamage: maybe set a time, and start testing springls in the meantime?
BrainDamage: if no activity from aegis is reported until then, consider switching
BrainDamage: this way everyone would be happy
[ARP]hoijui_irc: yeah.. starting to test springls is a good aproach
[ARP]hoijui_irc: we either end up with two valid servers software then, or at least one
_koshi_: maybe you can coordinate some focused testing later this week?
_koshi_: it's prolly better if you're present for that
Licho[0K]: i would recommend trying to patch uberserver instead
Licho[0K]: its not big piece of code
[ARP]hoijui_irc: yeah true
[ARP]hoijui_irc: this week is not good though
[ARP]hoijui_irc: if you replace instead with in addition to, i agree
[ARP]hoijui_irc: and if you find someone :D
[ARP]hoijui_irc: i will nto do that
_koshi_: well, whenever floats your boat wrt testing then hoijui. We'll table discussing results here whenever we get some
[ARP]hoijui_irc: ook
[ARP]hoijui_irc: yeah, next week should be ok
_koshi_: anything else?
[ARP]hoijui_irc: not for me
Agenda Item 5:SAYBATTLEPRIVATE & SAYBATTLEPRIVATEEX proposal -------------------------
BrainDamage: just so that licho gets the forcejoin he wants: is anyone here volunteering to add to uberserver? how long should be wait more for a reponse from aegis?
BrainDamage: ops, a bit late
_koshi_: I'm not volunteering
_koshi_: and I don't really want to set an ultimatum
[ARP]hoijui_irc: same
[V]sheep: i'm here... nothing to say on the subject
[V]sheep: and not volunteering
Licho[0K]: its not so easy because it needs hack
Licho[0K]: i mean forgemsg
Licho[0K]: and compat flag
[ARP]hoijui_irc: i think the hack can be copied from Springls
[ARP]hoijui_irc: its just 2 or 3 lines in java
[ARP]hoijui_irc: so must be 1/3 line in python
_koshi_: next?
BrainDamage: i guess
Agenda Item 6:SAYBATTLEPRIVATE & SAYBATTLEPRIVATEEX proposal -------------------------
_koshi_: from last conclusions:
_koshi_: Edit: oh and SAYPRIVATEBATTLE(EX) wasn't accepted as is, but licho/aegis will prepare a new draft for a future meeting
_koshi_: did that happen?
Licho[0K]: what do you mean
Licho[0K]: it is already in uberserver
Licho[0K]: springie and spads are using it
Licho[0K]: oh you mean documenting it
_koshi_: i mean a draft for inclusion into the protocol, yes
_koshi_: that's a 'no' then? so next item?
[ARP]hoijui_irc: jo
Agenda Item 7:remaining uberserver commands -------------------------
_koshi_: remaining in the sense that they're not documented
_koshi_: of the three items listed:
_koshi_: OPENBATTLEEX family of commands
_koshi_: EXIT https://github.com/spring/LobbyProtocol/issues/2
_koshi_: GETINGAMETIME
_koshi_: only GETINGAMETIME is also in springLS, correct?
_koshi_: src/main/java/com/springrts/springls/commands/impl/GetInGameTimeCommandProcessor.java
_koshi_: 32:@SupportedCommand("GETINGAMETIME")
[ARP]hoijui_irc: mm ok
[ARP]hoijui_irc: i will document that one then
_koshi_: do you differentiate voluntary and aborted connections in any way?
_koshi_: since that's what's given as the reason for EXIT
[ARP]hoijui_irc: me?
[ARP]hoijui_irc: i have no idea .. :D
Licho[0K]: i gtg, bye!
[ARP]hoijui_irc: bye
[ARP]hoijui_irc: i will have to check that one
_koshi_: seems sensible to have either way imo
_koshi_: OPENBATTLEEX family of commands
_koshi_: will have to be postponed again since no one but aegis and licho is in the know for those
[ARP]hoijui_irc: i dont care muhc for exit or not, would implement if it kind of makes sense
_koshi_: actually, it's sensible to send always for clients, if it's sensible for the server to actually handle depends very much on your imp
[ARP]hoijui_irc: i guess i can also document EXIT then
_koshi_: ie we can add that to protocol, so everybody would send it always
_koshi_: and if it makes sense you handle it
_koshi_: else you don't
[ARP]hoijui_irc: ok
[ARP]hoijui_irc: sounds good
_koshi_: since it cannot have any reply either way
_koshi_: alrighty
_koshi_: the "more?" part is a question for aegis too i guess
Agenda Item 8:server development/documentation / what was done this week -------------------------
_koshi_: anything to add to that [ARP]hoijui_irc?
[V]sheep: no
_koshi_: in that case imo we're thru with what we can discuss tonight and I congratulate us all to a meeting in < 80 minutes
Summary
- http://springrts.com/dl/LobbyProtocol/ now is updated daily from master, thanks to abma
- koshi will change the CHANGEEMAIL documentation to include moderators as allowed to change a user's address
- FORCEJOIN is implemented in SpringLS, no progress in uberserver
- hoijui will organize focused springLS testing at his opportunity
- aegis/Licho did not draft SAYBATTLEPRIVATE[EX] protocol additions, this is tabled again
- GETINGAMETIME and EXIT will be added to protocol
- no draft/discussion of OPENBATTLEEX family of commands yet
