P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

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Private or Public Beta-Test?

Private
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29%
Public
42
71%
 
Total votes: 59

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Argh
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P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by Argh » 27 Mar 2008, 02:04

I have a major announcement to make:

Short of some minor buildings and other fairly minor content, Resistance is feature complete. P.U.R.E.'s next major build is almost ready to play.

I'd like to know if people would be interested in a public beta test (iow, you'd get to see a lot of stuff broken, but it'd get fixed over several releases, and you'd all get to participate), or whether I should do a private one until all the content is done, Spring bugs have been addressed, etc..

If I don't hear any major sentiment either way, I'll probably just sit on this until I get the content done, but testing and polishing out the major bugs and balance issues is going to be necessary before I can release this, so I'd still like to hear who's going to be up for testing.
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knorke
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by knorke » 27 Mar 2008, 02:34

Iam selfish and want to play some new mod with fresh units, so make it public :roll:
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BlueTemplar
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by BlueTemplar » 27 Mar 2008, 06:04

You'll get a lot more feedback from a 8vs8 multiplayer game, than from a 1vs1AI...

And, for my part - I really want to play it, now that I found how to fix the sound problem! :-)
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Guessmyname
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by Guessmyname » 27 Mar 2008, 19:22

I voted public, mostly because you hardly send anything to us beta testers anyway :P
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chillaaa
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by chillaaa » 27 Mar 2008, 23:07

PUBLIC!!!!!!!!!
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Argh
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by Argh » 28 Mar 2008, 00:38

Well, it appears that the people have spoken (er, at least 25 of them at any rate).

I'll release one last private build, just so GMN can see why I've been sitting on it, then when it's in a slightly-less scary state gameplay-wise, I'll put up the first public betas. Just be warned that if you're expecting it to be perfectly polished or balanced... it ain't.
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zwzsg
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by zwzsg » 28 Mar 2008, 01:38

Private. It generates more buzz and hype. It makes the selected happy few feel more special, and so they actually do play it and give feedback instead of "Meh, someone else will do, I'll test it later". Also, PURE is cool enough that you'll get enough people signing up. And then they'll boast to their friend how cool they are to be allowed into a private beta, and their friends will want to play but can't, so it builds anticipation and desire etc... And private gives testers the sense they have the duty to properly test and report.

If you go public, the mass won't understand the concept of beta-testing, and will go "tried PURE once, was broken, will never play again".


Though my prefered route would be to do regular releases, each considered "currently final".
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Argh
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by Argh » 28 Mar 2008, 01:52

my prefered route would be to do regular releases, each considered "currently final"
That's mine, too, in general. I hate releasing anything that's not polished. It's hard to judge the gameplay issues, though, without extensive beta-testing. Chicken-and-egg stuff, basically.
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Felix the Cat
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by Felix the Cat » 30 Mar 2008, 06:43

IMO private would be best for P.U.R.E - it gives you a chance to iron out all of the bugs that slipped through, gameplay and balance issues, and stuff like that before releasing the game to the community as a whole. First impressions are hard to shake off, and you wouldn't want P.U.R.E. to be thought of as inferior. A private beta test also allows you to release updates more often, more smoothly, and with assurance that only the latest update will be tested - making the testing cycle go much smoother.

The poll is worthless - it's the functional equivalent of asking whether you should give everyone $100, or only give 10 of your friends $100. It's pretty obvious what the majority will answer.
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Snipawolf
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Post by Snipawolf » 30 Mar 2008, 06:55

It is easier to say that 90 percent of people who clicked on public will not give feedback, but all of the people who would have privately tested would have. :-)
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bobthedinosaur
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by bobthedinosaur » 30 Mar 2008, 07:21

private or else people will think of pure as the buggy mod that wasnt worth updating constantly to give you feed back
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Otherside
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by Otherside » 30 Mar 2008, 16:18

i voted public but dunnno private might be a better idea

either way public or private xD i want to beta test :p
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overkill
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by overkill » 30 Mar 2008, 17:03

Private, for reasons the other people have stated.
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SwiftSpear
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by SwiftSpear » 30 Mar 2008, 18:34

The general public always believes they are mature enough to betatest. The reality is, most of them will try a game once, and if it's too buggy to be fun playing, make their decision that the game sucks and that's it. Private betatesters will already probably all not like the game by the time it's finished. But at least they will be limited in number.
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[XIII]Roxas
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by [XIII]Roxas » 30 Mar 2008, 20:33

I'd like to play it.

Voted Private, for the reasons which I fully agree with.
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overkill
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by overkill » 31 Mar 2008, 01:53

Meh, i would test and give feedback on gameplay and stuff, but that doesnt mean i will like it.
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Argh
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by Argh » 31 Mar 2008, 05:11

So, silent voters want a public beta-test, just about everybody who's posted in this thread wants it to be private... meh...

Look, tell ya what, people. Anybody who wants to be in a private betatest of P.U.R.E., send me a PM. I will sign you up and send you a copy, when it's ready enough, which it isn't yet, and won't be for at least a week, given everything else I have to get done. If I don't get at least 6 beta-test requests, then I'll just do it in public, with the assumption being that I'll be going for players off of the Forums anyhow, when it's ready, so it won't make me sad if nobody around here likes it, or hates the early betas and refuses to give later ones a chance. I just want to get feedback from people who've played it, who are open to the idea that it will not be perfect, and will require bugfixes before it's completely polished. It's always that way, with any game- even the big companies have betatests after they've already gone through basic QA, to find the rough spots...
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Neddie
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by Neddie » 31 Mar 2008, 07:40

I'll help you with either.
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clericvash
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by clericvash » 31 Mar 2008, 14:01

Public, the more the merrier. If private you have to select people, and then it will be hard to find people to test with.
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Torrasque
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Re: P.U.R.E. beta-testing.

Post by Torrasque » 31 Mar 2008, 19:23

Make a semi-private release :
Send it to everybody which do the minimal effort to send you a PM.
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