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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by imbaczek » 29 Aug 2008, 20:55

I'd also say don't show anything that's not at 100%, just like the healthbars widget.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Argh » 29 Aug 2008, 21:20

Well, the way it works right now is that it doesn't show anything at all, if any important values aren't above / below threshold values. So you'd see a little billboard with different values, and it'd be black if that value is not changing, basically.

One thing I guess I could do, though, is instead of having exactly one background, where it's wasting space a lot, I could have small "modules". It'd be a lot like the Healthbars approach, but with a different presentation, basically. Lemme try that tonight, after I get done with IRL, I think that that would work all right, and it wouldn't require any huge change to the logic.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Argh » 30 Aug 2008, 03:26

All righty... here we go: lost the useless text, it stacks, it resizes dynamically with camera distance from the ground, it has color coding, and it uses less space. Oh, and it's been "modularized", so that I could add arbitrary stuff to the stack very easily. It was already pretty close, just had to clean up a couple of very minor things.

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Close-up, click to see at full resolution.

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Zoomed way out, it shrinks but is still visible. That's as small as it gets, so if you're zoomed way, way, way out, you'll see what's happening, gameplay-wise.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Crayfish » 30 Aug 2008, 03:27

Much nicer. Any idea of when we might see this opened up?
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Argh » 30 Aug 2008, 04:43

In terms of release dates... I dunno. I'd like to say, "soon", but it really depends on how long the Spring engine takes to get fixed up, given it's current state.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Noruas » 30 Aug 2008, 05:46

You are starting to spark my interest lobe of my brain.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by clumsy_culhane » 30 Aug 2008, 06:07

P.U.R.E is looking awesome, although im not too happy about that smoke effect.. looks very sprit-ish and repitive.. ?
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by imbaczek » 30 Aug 2008, 13:33

now we're talking, this looks sweeeet.
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Post by Bartosh » 30 Aug 2008, 18:31

there needs to be walls, (don't know if you got them or not).
there kinda pointless time wasters, but fun to build and look cool.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Das Bruce » 30 Aug 2008, 19:48

About the box images, I think it looks bad having the 1px line black borders.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Gota » 31 Aug 2008, 04:48

Will pure be spammy?
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Argh » 31 Aug 2008, 05:17

About the box images, I think it looks bad having the 1px line black borders.
I tried that both ways- looks better with the stark contrast there.
im not too happy about that smoke effect.. looks very sprit-ish and repitive.. ?
It's all right, in motion. My main complaint is the CPU cost of throwing lots of particles around. However, even on low-end systems, it'll be all right.

Should do a Lua hack of some new things I learned how to do, to make a more elegant solution, but I'm busy with stuff that's more important at the moment.
there needs to be walls, (don't know if you got them or not).
there kinda pointless time wasters, but fun to build and look cool.
Well... hmm. We can have walls that actually work right, now- i.e., they can have box collision zones. Might actually be worth doing. I'll think about that, maybe put it on the list of things to do when the punch-list is done.
Will pure be spammy?
If you're asking whether it's like NanoBlobs, the answer is no, it's not like NanoBlobs. Anything else gets into arbitrary definitions of what "spammy" means, frankly. Are units free? No. Can you make a lot of them? Absolutely. Will you make a lot of them? Depends on the map and the players.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Argh » 31 Aug 2008, 07:23

Got bored today, did this for fun.

Don't read anything deep into it, this was just a screwing-around thing- I'm entitled to actually have fun once in awhile, I think. I reworked the old NB Strider as a quickie project, since I haven't skinned anything for a bit, wanted to do a refresher. Thought it'd be fun to share the results, though:

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Put it into NB after I did IRL stuff. It's amazing how crude that game looks, two years later, but then I think about how much was new, and how fast I was going, and how little I even bothered worrying about Quality, since it was a thought experiment that mushroomed anyhow... and I get over it ;)
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by AF » 01 Sep 2008, 11:42

I like that.

Regarding the changes to your bars, I noticed this in other games and found I had to figure out the mapping from colour - action for some colours, its not always obvious, health for example is an easy mapping to figure out but the others aren't.

So perhaps when the bars are close enough the symbols can fade out to reveal icons in order to speed up the process. Or perhaps they can be put into the gem icons so that they're visible when close up but aren't noticeable far away where they would be too small but you can still tell due to the colour?

Jks widget sort of had the problem but doesn't Jk put the name of the bar inside the bar itself?
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Pressure Line » 01 Sep 2008, 11:58

Agreed AF.

If i dont know what the bar represents, it may as well not be there.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by clericvash » 01 Sep 2008, 12:50

Pressure Line wrote: If i dont know what the bar represents, it may as well not be there.
My thoughts exactly.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Pressure Line » 01 Sep 2008, 13:01

obviously, as a new PURE player im not going to instantly know everything, but something like what status bars mean needs to be really obvious.
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Sheekel » 01 Sep 2008, 14:08

Argh wrote:Got bored today, did this for fun.

Don't read anything deep into it, this was just a screwing-around thing- I'm entitled to actually have fun once in awhile, I think. I reworked the old NB Strider as a quickie project, since I haven't skinned anything for a bit, wanted to do a refresher. Thought it'd be fun to share the results, though:

mmm i remember that little model of mine, glad to see the remake getting used again. Looks awesome!
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Post by FrOzEnTaCo » 01 Sep 2008, 17:46

Guessmyname wrote:Um, Argh? You might want to change the title:

Purify, Expand, Reclaim, Exterminate abbreviates to PERE, not PURE

pure sounds better then pere imo so -1
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Re: P.U.R.E. 0.55

Post by Das Bruce » 01 Sep 2008, 19:10

I thought he'd just made a Freudian slip and it was supposed to be Unify?
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