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Re: BA Website
There are Wiki plugins for Wordpress that make certain things more 'Wiki' like. Personally though, I'd keep things like guides, news articles on Wordpress and specific detail about certain aspects of the game like units, development and such on a Wiki. Much in the same way that Minecraft is, and boy do I love Minecraft's Wiki site.
In essence, a Wiki should be purely for information with no bias or quirky style of writing and a Wordpress should be more personalised with writers being able to express their articles however they please.
In essence, a Wiki should be purely for information with no bias or quirky style of writing and a Wordpress should be more personalised with writers being able to express their articles however they please.
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Wiki is not for bloging. it is for creating documentation really fast. It is very good at it, wordpress cannot come close without heavy modification(assuming there are plugins)...
either way for a site like that, wordpress is more suited but people saying wordpress can = wiki not likely they really use wikis.
either way for a site like that, wordpress is more suited but people saying wordpress can = wiki not likely they really use wikis.
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Mediawiki:
When logged in you click the edit button in the footer/top menu, you're presented with an edit form in the middle of the page. You edit the page, and you save. Your changes go live.
WordPress:
When logged in you click the edit button in the admin toolbar at the top, you're presented with an edit form in the middle of a back end page. You edit the page, and you save. Your changes go live.
Both have revisions
Both have authors
Both track changes
Both can show history and diffs
The primary difference:
Also anybody who says WordPress is just a blog is just trolling. Plenty of people make and build Wordpress sites that have no blogs on them and make enough to earn repeat custom and run major sites that get hundreds of thousands of visitors per day. Government customers and major corporations.
When logged in you click the edit button in the footer/top menu, you're presented with an edit form in the middle of the page. You edit the page, and you save. Your changes go live.
WordPress:
When logged in you click the edit button in the admin toolbar at the top, you're presented with an edit form in the middle of a back end page. You edit the page, and you save. Your changes go live.
Both have revisions
Both have authors
Both track changes
Both can show history and diffs
The primary difference:
- WordPress prefers to use the dedicated extensible backend, MediaWiki plonks a textarea with a toolbar in the middle of the frontend. Both can be made to do it the other way around easily
- WordPress can handle more than just pages, and can categorise them, MediaWiki cannot
- WordPress uses HTML out of the box, Mediawiki uses a proprietary system.
- MediaWiki puts a login history and edit link on every page, WordPress can do this but does not by default unless told to.
Also anybody who says WordPress is just a blog is just trolling. Plenty of people make and build Wordpress sites that have no blogs on them and make enough to earn repeat custom and run major sites that get hundreds of thousands of visitors per day. Government customers and major corporations.
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That's nice af but your post is glistening with bias.
- Forboding Angel
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Best solution is to set up a wiki inside a wordpress template page. That way you get power and functionality of a wiki inside a wordpress shell.
That said, you need to make sure the wiki has a decent editor like tiny mce or ckedit etc.
Mediawiki integrated into wordpress, BAM: http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/08/17 ... mediawiki/
I win one free internet.
That said, you need to make sure the wiki has a decent editor like tiny mce or ckedit etc.
Mediawiki integrated into wordpress, BAM: http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/08/17 ... mediawiki/
I win one free internet.
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http://keeyai.com/projects-and-releases ... tegration/
^^ Doku wiki is even easier to integrate
I win another free internet.
^^ Doku wiki is even easier to integrate
I win another free internet.
- Forboding Angel
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Wikiwiki / ewiki integration:
http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archiv ... tegration/
That's 3 free internets so far.
http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archiv ... tegration/
That's 3 free internets so far.
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Built on docuwiki... http://www.wiki.evolutionrts.info
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For a long stretch Darkstars was based on DokuWiki, and I used dokuwiki and mediawiki extensively throughout all 4 years of my degree, save for the last year when we experimented with Redmine and Trac briefly. Even then Dokuwiki and mediawiki were still integrated in darkstars' wordpress install in various ways. The last frontfacing part being the dokuwiki in the file site which I removed because it wasnt being used enough to justify it.
As I understand it your experiences with WordPress revolve around the ungodly idea of integrating phpBB with it, something that any PHP developer would cringe at the thought of regardless of what its being integrated into.
Frontend inline editing anyone? http://scribu.net/wordpress/front-end-editor
As I understand it your experiences with WordPress revolve around the ungodly idea of integrating phpBB with it, something that any PHP developer would cringe at the thought of regardless of what its being integrated into.
Frontend inline editing anyone? http://scribu.net/wordpress/front-end-editor
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The different services need to stay different. Phpbb and mediawiki don't need to have the same connected DB. In truth its caused a lot of trouble in the past. Same goes for site logins. There isn't any need for anyone to register or login to the site anyway unless they are an admin.
There is more I have to say, but typing this on my phone sucks.
There is more I have to say, but typing this on my phone sucks.
- Forboding Angel
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Re: BA Website
Ok, computer now. AF, please stop talking. Wordpress sucks ass for documentation among multiple people. If it's just you, then sure, it's ok.
You keep forgetting what wordpress doesn't do.
Like sectioning. That's a pretty important one. moreover, multiple people can be editing multiple sections on the same page at the same time. Wordpress cannot do that.
Wordpress is not a good choice for documentation.
Guys, I recommend dokuwiki. Have a look at the evo wiki. It's really really really easy to get along with and I can tell you what plugins to install to end up with the same setup (plugins just install via a url and the admin panel, it's really neat). Mediawiki is a much bigger pain in the ass to deal with. I myself thought that since wikipedia uses it it must be the best.
I know better now. It's not the best. But in the end, what you want is up to you. Ignore all these dumbasses bickering about stupid stuff.
Wordpress is an awesome site cms.
Wiki is awesome for documentation.
Phpbb is awesome for forums.
Don't try to do what this site has done and shove them all in the same box. Just use them as they are meant to be used and all will be great (though it seems like the ba site already has a great forum system setup, so rock on guys)!
You keep forgetting what wordpress doesn't do.
Like sectioning. That's a pretty important one. moreover, multiple people can be editing multiple sections on the same page at the same time. Wordpress cannot do that.
Wordpress is not a good choice for documentation.
Guys, I recommend dokuwiki. Have a look at the evo wiki. It's really really really easy to get along with and I can tell you what plugins to install to end up with the same setup (plugins just install via a url and the admin panel, it's really neat). Mediawiki is a much bigger pain in the ass to deal with. I myself thought that since wikipedia uses it it must be the best.
I know better now. It's not the best. But in the end, what you want is up to you. Ignore all these dumbasses bickering about stupid stuff.
Wordpress is an awesome site cms.
Wiki is awesome for documentation.
Phpbb is awesome for forums.
Don't try to do what this site has done and shove them all in the same box. Just use them as they are meant to be used and all will be great (though it seems like the ba site already has a great forum system setup, so rock on guys)!
Re: BA Website
It's not possible to edit posts (maybe if upload was attached): It says topic is empty.
Also when you try to edit a post and click on any field, it clears that field entirely. It's pretty annoying since you have to hit back and copy+paste in the old post.
Also when you try to edit a post and click on any field, it clears that field entirely. It's pretty annoying since you have to hit back and copy+paste in the old post.
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I am not advocating the use of blogposts and pages for documentation Forb. Telling me to just shutup isn ignorant and insulting, and removes all possibility of you learning that maybe I know something you aren't aware of
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Re: BA Website
Thanks for reporting this bug, it is now solved.Cheesecan wrote:It's not possible to edit posts (maybe if upload was attached): It says topic is empty.
Also when you try to edit a post and click on any field, it clears that field entirely. It's pretty annoying since you have to hit back and copy+paste in the old post.
http://balancedannihilation.org/forums/ ... #post-1138
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Thanks!marciolino wrote:Thanks for reporting this bug, it is now solved.Cheesecan wrote:It's not possible to edit posts (maybe if upload was attached): It says topic is empty.
Also when you try to edit a post and click on any field, it clears that field entirely. It's pretty annoying since you have to hit back and copy+paste in the old post.
http://balancedannihilation.org/forums/ ... #post-1138
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RSS feed for the BA website forums:
For all posts, topics, replies:
http://balancedannihilation.org/forums/rss
For an specific topic:
http://balancedannihilation.org/forums/ ... -topic/rss
For all posts, topics, replies:
http://balancedannihilation.org/forums/rss
For an specific topic:
http://balancedannihilation.org/forums/ ... -topic/rss
Re: BA Website
Nice! Added to my NewsFox
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Cool beans zorro, I'm getting a new server soon so I can run gargamel again, and I'll def add a forum feed parser.
- marciolino
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Cool beherith, just tell me when it is ready
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On http://balancedannihilation.org/media/ if you click "screenshots" it does not really show screenshots. Instead the youtube videos go partly transparent but are still here.
I think it should just show http://balancedannihilation.org/portfol ... reenshots/
I think it should just show http://balancedannihilation.org/portfol ... reenshots/