Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

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Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by knorke » 19 Aug 2011, 20:37

So after some convo with zwzsg I volunteered to make some changes for the next BA version and ended up getting a bit carried away and now have a copy of BA on my local machine where everything is magnetic which imo put right some problems remaining from 7.4x and assist in addressing a few other long standing issues.

Cause I've changed more than I intended to I'd love to trial an experimental/alpha version for feedback first.

What I'd like to gauge in this thread is if people are happy enough with BA 7.50 that they wont try it, or if the community is interested in trying a bit of this?

One of the biggest changes is probally that is no longer possible to build a base because the commander will become attached to the first building you make:
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and is unable to de-attach himself.

Another balance tweak is the introduction of many new unique units for example the Bull Raven:
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For CORE we introduce the Sumo Tower which is also an anti nuke (with a Reaper tank at the base, for speed) and the AK gunship:
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by PicassoCT » 19 Aug 2011, 20:49

Disregard my old opinion, this is awesome, pure awesome, made a sandwich... check it out, you must see this...
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by oksnoop2 » 19 Aug 2011, 22:31

How do they work?
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by TheFatController » 19 Aug 2011, 22:37

I can't see why this needs a test version, someone get this man commit access to main BA stat
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by Sucky_Lord » 19 Aug 2011, 22:59

I can see an immediate problem with building a krogoth in the centre of all my ally's (non-existent) bases.
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by KaiserJ » 19 Aug 2011, 23:31

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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by Wombat » 20 Aug 2011, 08:48

knorke for m... no wait...

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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by nightcold » 20 Aug 2011, 08:57

As a person that hates ba and played it only because it was the only game on,
I demand that you put this into the mainstream branch of ba!!!!!!!


Maybe you can make a magnetic weapon, like a missile that makes all the units in the areas it hits magnetic.can open the possibilities for some creative tactics.like in the mid game stage one side can use the missile on their own army so have an ultra dense offensive, or it can be like a whorphole thing with the mother ship is starcraft2, make all the units useless/disappear for a little while.
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by knorke » 20 Aug 2011, 12:13

I think the everything is magnetic part needs some fine tuning.
Some units cause epic error spam when they attach to another..will have to see what that is about :?
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by manolo_ » 20 Aug 2011, 12:28

its not a bug, its a feature :D
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by knorke » 20 Aug 2011, 13:34

its not a gif, its a video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjFo8acEd2Y
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by PicassoCT » 20 Aug 2011, 13:34

What are you still reading? The link is above, the game is behind the link, the awesome is in the game, nothing that comes after this post can top this. Oh, well, knorke can, but still...
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by knorke » 20 Aug 2011, 13:41

no way you watched the video so fast!
yes, is all part of the commanders astronaut training.
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Srsly knorke, could have the effect osszilate? Like the newton, putting stuff away, and then attracting it again..
it works by making every unit a transport and then randomly attach units to each others. (that is actually how magnets work in real life)
So the gadget could in theory move/turn pieces to make for better wiggling but I think the unit scripts would undo all the motions.
And moving some pieces might even block the unit from working/shooting depending on how it is scripted.
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by PicassoCT » 20 Aug 2011, 13:43

knorke wrote:its not a gif, its a video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjFo8acEd2Y
I admit, i didnt watch the vid, got the post ready, so why waitin..

Now that i watched the vid.

why not make this srs buisness knorke?

Make ingame buildsets, you build blocks, and the players can magnet those together into creatures of there choice. Snake of Firearms i choose you. Just applying it to standard BA-Units- is kindof a waste of potential.
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by BaNa » 20 Aug 2011, 14:11

could you post the mod file for lols knorke? I would play it :D
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by knorke » 20 Aug 2011, 14:39

I want to try this too but there here are some errors left.
Sometimes it spams
ScriptError: Invalid piecenumber for attach outside script execution
and somtimes units appear 9000 miles under the terrain.
It is just for lols anyway but want to fix at least those two before releaseing.
Announce and release on same day is unheard of anyway.
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by knorke » 20 Aug 2011, 21:31

now hosting in lobby
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mba750.sdz
requires normal ba 7,50
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by AF » 20 Aug 2011, 22:09

knorke wrote:I want to try this too but there here are some errors left.
Sometimes it spams
ScriptError: Invalid piecenumber for attach outside script execution
and somtimes units appear 9000 miles under the terrain.
It is just for lols anyway but want to fix at least those two before releaseing.
Announce and release on same day is unheard of anyway.

This reminds me of TA BOS scripting and stargates and using unit heights to identify units. I expect Zwzsg will have much to say on this.
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by BaNa » 21 Aug 2011, 00:06

we just had a few excellent games with this, it was epic fun :D :D :D
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Re: Interest in a 'magnetic' version?

Post by PicassoCT » 21 Aug 2011, 00:16

It was there, i was there, what a remarkable affair. Units flying through the Air, and whats even more remarkably - it somehow retains a sort of balance...

I first had some prejudices about this, thinking "Meh.. this will be a hackyjob at best, no balance nowhere.." but it has it.. there is a stopper for every stack. And it has a sandbox, you can build together whatever combination you like. The Battles are chaotic, if you are new, but you learn, learn to keep your distance (closecombat is murderous)- all those little tricks (grab enemy units, fly over ocean, do it again)


PS: It doesent work (yet) with ships. Knorke do something about that.
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