May be worth considering donations

May be worth considering donations

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Beherith
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For this kind of stuff:

http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/sci ... 3ds/281747

http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/I ... /ID/210663

http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/I ... /ID/203850

http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/I ... /ID/195361

http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/sci ... 3ds/209189

http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/war ... 3ds/570185

The prices are about 20$ per model. All consistent, excellent looking stuff. A 100 models would run us about 2000$ (which is less than a month's worth of salary for a modeler)

Possible donation models could include naming rights per unit cost donated, and free distribution of team color patterns.
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Yes, but you'd have to check on re-licensing limits. After all, it would mean that people couldn't make BA-sub-mutators. Hell, the modeler might not be okay with you redistributing your content in a free package.
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I'm really bad at legalese, but I think point 3/ii has us covered. Can s3o be considered proprietary in this case?
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I just worry what happens when somebody starts making derivative versions of your TAIP-free Balanced Annihilation re-make, or when whoever is the official "customer" of the vendor abandons the project and it has to get re-bundled into "ReBalanced Warfare"
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I just worry what happens when somebody starts making derivative versions of your TAIP-free Balanced Annihilation re-make...
It might be possible to get the models licensed to Spring as a whole, in which case all mods could use them.
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why in the hell do we need to fork out $2000 for this when currently you can win any game with combom

.. inb4 NOT 1V1 !!!!1!!!!1!!1
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I actually loled at that post.
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Beherith wrote:The prices are about 20$ per model. All consistent, excellent looking stuff. A 100 models would run us about 2000$ (which is less than a month's worth of salary for a modeler)
Last time I did a count on BA units, it was 367.

So let's say ~350 unique models.

:regret:
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he also offers some free stuff, if someone likes to test:
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/I ... /ID/203851
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I know full well how many models BA has, thank you. Nowhere did I say or imply it would be a complete replacement.

Kitbashing and minor modifications can increase the number we can obtain from them.

There are already a bunch of available assets that can be used/are used in BAR (mr. ds, cremusses stuff)

Edit: I am willing to put in 300$ to start this project up. What I'm interested in is whether anyone else likes the models enough to consider donating?
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Tbh, if you ask me, buying these are waste of money.

Not that they look bad, but they just dont fit in the big picture. If, ofc, you are planning these to replace OTA models.
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Buying models takes all the fun out of making them.
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Which won't happen
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All you guys need to do is get 2 or 3 modelers together, use kaiser's legos, and you can redo the entirety of BA in a month. The lego texture atlas is easily changed, so making the texture fit *A would be a fairly simple job.
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Forboding Angel wrote:All you guys need to do is get 2 or 3 modelers together, use kaiser's legos, and you can redo the entirety of BA in a month. The lego texture atlas is easily changed, so making the texture fit *A would be a fairly simple job.
This.
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it gonna work only if THC replace ba models, ppl gonna bitch @ kaiser legos so much :/ (and i mean ba, not bar or w/e)
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Big important note: You can get these models from the authors site, here, for a third of the price:
http://www.3drt.com/3dm/3d_vehicles.htm

Their liscence agreement:
You are not permitted to:

1) Market, distribute, give, transfer, sell or sublicense the products in any format with the exception of a compiled application such as a video game. If the products are used in a compiled application then the following rules must be strictly followed:

a) The products must be a part of the compiled program.
(files should not be accessible in their native formats (.3ds, .max, .X, .FBX, .dts etc. ) from your program folder)

b) Every possible attempt should be made to protect the products from theft by using resource encryption or some other form of concealment.
(basic archive encryption will suffice)

2) sell or distribute the modified products in any format except as part of a compiled application (See line 1 above for compilation terms).
I dont think that s3o could be considered a proprietary format, given that spring itself is open source, though you'd have better luck asking the spring developers. Its easy to reverse engineer.

I've seen another game, AstroMenace, who uses this content and tried to release it under the GPL. They released their sound, GUI, and about 6 models (of weapons, not ships) but said they could not release the larger bulk of the content due to conflicts with the original licence holder.

Unless 3drt are ideologically opposed to GPL and open source software, there should be no problem arranging with them to use this content, they want customers.


Seriously though, consider using the 'legos'. Even your most amateur Upspring-noob fanbois could bash together a decent looking set of models if they have any kind of aesthetic sense, the technical skill requirements are minimal. Kaisers textures are really great, with reflections and crisp normal maps, and if CA didnt have 90% of its content already replaced, i would totally use them. The parts themselves are generic enough (primitives like squares, triangles, cylinders, wheels etc) that you can fairly faithfully reproduce OTA models without the game looking like Evo. Never mind, looks like you have a gob ton of talented artists making models for you now!
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thats a rip off behe. just copy the design if you like it. it would be worth more to the community if instead of a coop investment of $ we did a coop investment in time, and the product would belong to the spring community with no legal strings attached.
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you know. if you guys see any models you like on the internet and such, just suggested them on that other thread and mr bob and i could do our best to incorporate the parts that you like in our current project. you dont have to really buy it.
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what do you mean pyra?
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