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Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 02:13
by Pako
Buildpower management is a big partion of the game and works fine IMO. Unit choices are usually the best way to control buildpower. T2 nanos would only break the current game in many ways.

It's so funny when even many decent players build nanos in big stacked farms so that killing a nano destroys all nanos, selfDing the dying nanos would actually prevent the chain.

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 09:25
by Hobo Joe
[RRU]RockmoddeR wrote:You all make very good points. What JohanneS said makes the biggest contribution to this discussion: T2 labs need to be able to build T1. It would make things a lot simpler for techers, and there'd be a faster buildtime too :D Also, then you wouldn't need to go all the way back to t1 for mass spamming... but yeah, I definitely think t2 labs should have to be able to build t1.
You need to learn how to spot sarcasm.



At OP - no way. This game turns into a horrible snoozefest when someone gets a nano farm going anyway, and techers bases need to be fragile to help avoid endless stalemates, as if 8v8 dsd isn't long enough already.

And nanos are plenty efficient.

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 11:50
by SirArtturi
Greetz,

BA would need many things.
But many things most likely wont change anymore.
BA is done - complete.
Not being developed.
Just maintained.
It's dead.
So stop suggesting improvements for It cos It sounds stupid and pointless.

Thx.

regards,
Artturi

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 13:51
by ginekolog
SirArtturi wrote:Greetz,
BA is done - complete.
This is truth and it is awsome that way. Just like Starcraft, last is some years old, yet game is still super popular.


All BA needs is good maintenance and minor balance tweaks when OPness appear (like vanguards).

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 15:42
by JohannesH
Actually often I just wish nobody goes and breaks any balance with a stupid change... At least when the option is getting ridiculous shit like new crocs D:

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 19:32
by Hackfresser
i like the vulnerability and space consumption of nanos as it is now.

i dont like how you have to keep a t1 cons around all the time though; this makes for tiresome and uninteresting micro management that does nothing for the game. make t2 cons build nanos i say.

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 23:18
by Hobo Joe
Hackfresser wrote:i like the vulnerability and space consumption of nanos as it is now.

i dont like how you have to keep a t1 cons around all the time though; this makes for tiresome and uninteresting micro management that does nothing for the game. make t2 cons build nanos i say.

Baaawwww an extra mobile unit in your perfect nano farm, pls fix it TFC

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 22 Jun 2010, 17:54
by TradeMark
I played Sennas mods and never needed T2 nanos to win, So i say No.

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 12:56
by hunterw
Porc unit. No.

MAKE FLOATING NANOTOWER NAOOOO

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 15:10
by smoke_th
Yes floating nano for water will be good. But i think you guys need add coastal defence gun from nota - srsly.

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 16:11
by Pxtl
hunterw wrote:Porc unit. No.

MAKE FLOATING NANOTOWER NAOOOO
Dude, have you *seen* how much nanopower the naval cons (and even moreso, the naval engs) get? They're beasts. Naval cons also generate a lot of E.

Now, an underwater nanotower would be worth thinking of, but you'd have to price it accordingly since UW stuff needs to be more expensive. But yeah, that would be good just because the underwater econ units are all very expensive nano-per-cost and it's nice to be able to do fully-underwater operations.

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 11:52
by smoke_th
Pxtl wrote:
hunterw wrote:Porc unit. No.

MAKE FLOATING NANOTOWER NAOOOO
Dude, have you *seen* how much nanopower the naval cons (and even moreso, the naval engs) get? They're beasts. Naval cons also generate a lot of E.

Now, an underwater nanotower would be worth thinking of, but you'd have to price it accordingly since UW stuff needs to be more expensive. But yeah, that would be good just because the underwater econ units are all very expensive nano-per-cost and it's nice to be able to do fully-underwater operations.
:lol: Like reclaiming tiny scout boats with underwater nano field :DDDDD

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 18:08
by [RRU]RockmoddeR
Haha, that would be one use for it...

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 19:47
by TradeMark
underwater nanos huh... what next, flying nanos?

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 22:42
by Sucky_Lord
TradeMark wrote:underwater nanos huh... what next, flying nanos?
Damn i think youre onto something.


No but seriously: cast your minds around for the one adaptation that could make BA games porcier. Yeah; T2 nanos -.-

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 23:19
by TradeMark
tbh i dont think anyone would ever build t2 nanos even if we had them...(they would cost a lot more and if you can pump out a krog in 5 seconds with normal nanos... do you really need it to be ready in 2.5 seconds??*)

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 00:28
by BaNa
I see waaay more over-nanoing than under-nanoing due to lack of space, so nay.

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 14:49
by bartvbl
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Can't vote.

I agree that T2 nanos would be nice, but I wouldn't make them more efficient - T1 nanos are already plenty efficient. I'd make them _less_ efficient in nano-per-cost, but without the chain exploding and far more efficient in terms of nano-per-area. This way you don't have to carpet your base in nanotowers to support your T2 airlab.
How about that they build a bit faster, but require a bit of extra metal and energy as building cost? That means you need to have a much better eco, while at the same time you can build faster using the better nanos

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 15:11
by TradeMark
uh... then those nanos should be 2k metal each and 10k energy and their buildspeed 2x. still same range tho.

Note: only useful in speedmetal map(s).

Re: BA needs t2 nanos.

Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 22:10
by Sucky_Lord
TradeMark wrote:uh... then those nanos should be 2k metal each and 10k energy... Note: only useful in speedmetal map(s).
You clearly haven't played enough 8v8 dsd ;)