juggernaut cant go over dragonteeths

[TradeMark]

bantha can...

juggernaut should go over anything really, its so fucking slow anyways

[TheFatController]

+1

[Blue_Falcon]

+0.5

Yes, it should be able to go over DTs, but IMO not just anything. I say any wreckages smaller than half its size, and Dragon's Teeth.

[TradeMark]

i agree

[polarstar_111]

Well, I find it an interesting feature that it can't. Its just a massive chunk of hp and is almost unstoppable anyway. It would add an interesting dimension to it if it can't crush stuff.

[ginekolog]

Jug would also deserve Crush weapon like Krog, just with lets say 50% less dPS. Its speed would still make it allmost useless though..

Big fat dgun bait

[TradeMark]

Well, I find it an interesting feature that it can't. Its just a massive chunk of hp and is almost unstoppable anyway. It would add an interesting dimension to it if it can't crush stuff.

so why the fuck i would build juggernauts then? krogs can walk over fences...

you can always build t2 fences to stop t3... which is logical


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its already really annoying to use juggernauts, since small units on front of them makes them turn around, and so they will just spin non stop like some retards and not move an inch.

+ you need to build at least 2 juggernauts and walk side by side with some distance, because its so easy to dgun them...

Jug would also deserve Crush weapon like Krog, just with lets say 50% less dPS.

+1

[1v0ry_k1ng]

how does the inability to crush things add an interesting dimension?

It'd be more interesting if it crushed *everything*

[bartvbl]

I think its power is balanced by its damn slow movements
That seems enough problems for that thing

[TradeMark]

would be great if the juggernaut had some fake collision sphere on front of it only for allies, so your allies cant go on front of your juggernaut and fuck up his movement...

the fake collision sphere would be same as when you build a building on allies units: they try to get outta there. except in this case they would try to get out of there at front or left/right, not at the direction of juggernaut..

or just simply make the juggernaut script so it wont try to change his direction when hes moving... wouldnt care about the units on front of it, unless they are buildings (or nanotowers). So it would just push everything on front of them, and push them so hard they will be forced to move...

[Forboding Angel]

Thing is, the jugg is already fairly weak (it's gun). I mean it's like a massive slowly walking hunk of solid steel with a tiny gun on it.

I confess it's been a while since I built a jugg, but I remember them and assume they haven't change a whole heck of a lot. I guess my point is that I can't see how they are even worth building if they are so easily stopped.

[TheFatController]

I've always seen them as pretty much what their name says, a barely mobile heavy turret, although they're useless against swarmers as they're too slow and the guns will do friendly fire and they're useless against really big things as their dps is too low so erm.. yeah.. they've always been a bit crap.

Problem is core can't have 2 krogoths so they have to remain as they are or take on some other role (or maybe the 'other role' they already have is fine).

[fLaMbEuR]

How about adding AA to it ?

[pintle]

Why can't core have 2 Krogoths? Its hardly gonna change the face of competitive BA 1v1s now is it?

[TradeMark]

I confess it's been a while since I built a jugg, but I remember them and assume they haven't change a whole heck of a lot. I guess my point is that I can't see how they are even worth building if they are so easily stopped.

i build juggernauts every time on MSSM, and they are good on that map... and they arent so easily stopped really, they can even walk past the short bridge with 50% speed boost =D and thats pretty much it...

How about adding AA to it ?

that would be great... would be a bit more useful, if it had like 2 flakkers on it. that would be fucking good actually :D

they've always been a bit crap.

yeah and their gun turns annoyingly slow :D one time i was trying to shoot some target and i saw my health draining, and just when i was gonna shoot, my juggernaut exploded -_-

maybe make the gun turn faster so it would be a bit more useful piece of shit?

[TradeMark]

i think juggernaut should go over t2 walls too... what do you think? would add some interesting aspect in the game when theres one unit that can do it...

[fLaMbEuR]

i think juggernaut should go over t2 walls too... what do you think? would add some interesting aspect in the game when theres one unit that can do it...

Well it would make sense if T3 units could go over T2 walls and big T2 units over T1 walls

[momfreeek]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/juggernaut

jug┬Àger┬Ànaut (jgr-n├┤t)
n.
2. An overwhelming, advancing force that crushes or seems to crush everything in its path

should crush everything (including allied units) except t3 and large buildings IMO.. now that'd make it interesting

[Pxtl]

Yeah, I was going to post something of that effect. It's called a _juggernaut_. "Crushing everything in its path" is the freaking definition of the word.

[TradeMark]

so my first post was correct after all

i think juggernaut should go over t2 walls too... what do you think? would add some interesting aspect in the game when theres one unit that can do it...

Well it would make sense if T3 units could go over T2 walls and big T2 units over T1 walls

nah t2 shouldnt go over t1 walls... its fine as it is now. but juggernaut should go over t2...