1. we are talking about a game
2. without the current engine beeing used, the whole spring project is dead which is more crucial
3. alternatives exist: fixed/updated games are available
4. + the reasons from viewtopic.php?f=38&t=39277#p590389
1. we are talking about a game
For BA users not wanting BA10, there actually isn't a good option with 104.0 atm - although it seems largely due to no one from this crowd playtesting if stuff worked in advance, and generally keeping heads in sand.3. alternatives exist: fixed/updated games are available
without beeing actively maintained, the place "elsewhere" will be soon "dead", too. The problem IMHO is, that gamedevs abandoned because players didn't want to help to run a new version. The same would happen with engine devs, too when we stay with 103.0.Flash wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 15:00Yes its "just" a game. But for the last years it was a shared "playground" of players and devs. With this decision you brought the majority of players to find a place to play their favorite game elsewhere.
As long as we dont have a ba10.x Version the majority can live with and apple users are not excluded in new engine its just not a good idea to exclude the most played and stable 103 Version.
Just see server stats and act please!
1) There is a reason why everyone still want to use older engine version. Is not that after 500 updates successfully accepted by the players they became all suddenly sick of new versions ALL together.
they care, but without devs it doesn't matter at all.Flash wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 16:36"again: this is mostly a non-commercial project. don't expect commercial like support."
I am not asking you to fix ba or anything i just dont want the majority of players to be excluded. Im sorry that i thought that devs would actually care about the playerbase but it seems not.
No players ---> No need for server.
As i said in previous post i agree 100% in changing to new code and stuff, but that should be done in the proper way.abma wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 16:57i can only encourage to help the project spring: report bugs or send pull requests to fix existing bugs:
game: https://github.com/Balanced-Annihilatio ... nihilation (or the game you desire)
lobby server : https://github.com/spring/uberserver/
springlobby : https://github.com/springlobby/springlobby
downloader : https://github.com/spring/pr-downloader
arguing here IMHO doesn't help. The decision to enforce an engine version is well-considered and all of us had a lot of time since the release of spring 104.0 to fix or report issues about it.
You clearly have no idea how a commercial platform works xDdansan wrote: ↑10 Apr 2019, 17:01There are versions of BA that work with 104.
Just work together (as in being helpful) with game devs to get the balance OK.
Btw.: "I want it to run on a modern platform, but it should work exactly like on the ancient one." doesn't work. Not in RL, not on commercial platforms and not with springrts.
It may not be a regular thing, but we reserve the right.very_bad_soldier wrote:Is this "let's ban old engines" a one time thing or do the devs plan to do it regularly from now on?
phoenix is on 104, however 104 "stable" has broken line move command which requires snapshots, meaning 103 is the last truly stable engine, but sadly it's banned
As far as I know (and from a search in mod discussion) this is not the case. Find another scapegoat.
You are very welcome to use maintenance engine. The level of support is unparalleled.