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Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 19:37
by aeonios
I wasn't going to complain about this, since honestly intel built-in graphics are crap, no joke. But, it's still fully capable of doing all the openGL stuff that spring uses and it's still a lot better than some of the stuff that was available a decade ago. I've even run on medium graphics settings without much lag.

The main reason I'm complaining though is that when I try to make maps I can't see adv map shading and there are lots of effects which I'm using but have to have someone else test and send screen shots. That takes forever and is a pretty unreliable way of getting anything done. It kind of makes me angry when I can't see what I'm doing and my system should be able to do that even if it's slower. Updating my drivers didn't help anything either, unfortunately.

For all I know it may work on linux/mesa, but migrating back to linux isn't really an option for me at the moment, not to mention zero-k doesn't really run on linux nor load through spring on linux properly. :|

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 19:59
by smoth
aeonios wrote:I wasn't going to complain about this, since honestly intel built-in graphics are crap, no joke. But, it's still fully capable of doing all the openGL stuff that spring uses
How is that? their gl implementation has been historically terrible, worse than ATI's. What is your intel card? what shader version does it support.

infolog.txt please

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 20:08
by Silentwings
my system should be able to do that
why? what goes wrong when you enabled adv map shading?

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 21:00
by aeonios
Silentwings wrote:why? what goes wrong when you enabled adv map shading?
It looks exactly the same as without adv map shading.
smoth wrote:How is that? their gl implementation has been historically terrible, worse than ATI's.
I never said it was a reasonable request. :P
smoth wrote:What is your intel card? what shader version does it support. infolog.txt please
http://pastebin.com/2A1RNciJ

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 21:07
by Silentwings
GL info:
..., haveGLSL: 0
I guess thats the reason.

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 21:19
by aeonios
Silentwings wrote:
GL info:
..., haveGLSL: 0
I guess thats the reason.
... right below the stated GLSL version. It's not like I'm running a p4, this card lets me run at 1920x1080 and is still very playable even with mass trees and giant maps and such. I can see speculars and normals in blender and SC2, why not in spring?

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 21:26
by jK
cause they use directx?

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 22:16
by aeonios
I realized that spring uses SDL internally for rendering anyway, so I should probably be complaining further upstream. :| I have a better temporary solution for my own problems, so oh well I guess.

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 22:42
by zoggop

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 23:33
by aeonios

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 23:41
by smoth
aeonios wrote: I never said it was a reasonable request. :P
No worries, just mentioning it

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 00:23
by Super Mario
aeonios wrote:I realized that spring uses SDL internally for rendering anyway, so I should probably be complaining further upstream. :| I have a better temporary solution for my own problems, so oh well I guess.
Wait it does? I thought it's own custom rendering system that jk develop?

Re: Working map shading on intel..

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 01:03
by aeonios
Super Mario wrote:
aeonios wrote:I realized that spring uses SDL internally for rendering anyway, so I should probably be complaining further upstream. :| I have a better temporary solution for my own problems, so oh well I guess.
Wait it does? I thought it's own custom rendering system that jk develop?
"rendering" comes in levels. Like OpenGL, glut, then the rendering engine built on top of that. On the other hand for all I know spring's engine could have been written entirely from scratch, but either way.