Springer: The small, cheap little single-player system

Slamoid · Post by **Slamoid** » 07 Jun 2007, 06:04

This menu system assumes you have all your maps and mods installed or linked to in your home/ "~/.spring" directory. This has a half-functional configuration file, only the AI line works right now. After downloading and untarring, just run the bash script "InstallMe.sh" to have it install to Spring's default directories; Default to the .DEB repository, from:

deb http://www.osrts.info/~tvo/deb edgy spring # Ubuntu Edgy Eft
deb http://www.osrts.info/~tvo/deb etch spring # Debian Testing
deb http://www.osrts.info/~tvo/deb sid spring # Debian Unstable

Map previews are not yet working, due to a recent change. I hope to have them going again soon, but like I said, RL is getting in the way.

To run the menu, after you run the InstallMe.sh, just run (Alt-F2 in Ubuntu/Gnome) "~/.spring/Springer"

For example:
Download the .tar.gz and untar to desktop
Open a prompt and type:

cd ~/Desktop;bash ./InstallMe.sh;~/.spring/Springer

For a desktop icon, just link to ~/.spring/Springer .

Please post about how this works for everyone. I'd also love to hear constructive suggestions.

vital · Post by **vital** » 08 Jun 2007, 19:21

It don't work at all for me. I have spring installed from the repos of osrts.
I used your install.sh, and then tryed to run springer with no results.

Slamoid · Post by **Slamoid** » 09 Jun 2007, 21:20

I apologize for the FuBar`ed release. I'll be releasing the source-code version after a few days; this release was not tested on other machines. The next one WILL run.

Slamoid · Post by **Slamoid** » 11 Jun 2007, 18:25

*sigh* double post.

New version uploaded. This should work. Make sure you have the PyGTK+ module installed. (Comes stock with Ubuntu)

Lippy · Post by **Lippy** » 11 Jun 2007, 19:41

Hey, tried it out today and for some reason it didn't start spring

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sh: spring: not found
32512

UI wise, I think its very nice and simple (although not all the 'empty slot' boxes seem to be inline; some are bigger some are smaller

). Springer will especially attract new players; some even new to linux, so it would be useful to have a UI for the configuration file. Adding another line for the springdirectory would also be useful, as some people will have it installed in various places or maybe have different versions (e.g. SVN & stable).
There should also be some description for each box e.g. Map: & Mod: but I'm sure you were going to do that anyway.
It was good idea to include Kloot's configuration tool too.

Anyway, it's coming along nicely; don't worry about the lack of replies; this will play an important role when the new version comes out, and we start attracting more linux players, because at the moment there's very few of us around.

P.S Also please note that not every mod has Arm or Core in it

vital · Post by **vital** » 11 Jun 2007, 20:41

the version 0.3 works fine for me.
what is still missing is the handicap selector and the amount of rescource at start.
when choosing more than 1 IA it says it can't fint KAI.so but find it with only one.

I'm still looking for how to change the maximum unit limit that is'nt available in the settings++ .

Slamoid · Post by **Slamoid** » 11 Jun 2007, 22:13

vital wrote:the version 0.3 works fine for me.
what is still missing is the handicap selector and the amount of rescource at start.
when choosing more than 1 IA it says it can't fint KAI.so but find it with only one.

I'm still looking for how to change the maximum unit limit that is'nt available in the settings++ .

The different names (Personas) have varying handicaps. This was done for younger players, and those who didn't want to deal with details. And, it was just quicker this way. The next version will be far more in-depth for the handicaps and alliances, as well as a Spectator Only mode, and multiple AI .so's.

Springer automatically defaults to 5000 unit cap.

Post by **Kloot** » 12 Jun 2007, 01:49

vital wrote: I'm still looking for how to change the maximum unit limit that is'nt available in the settings++ .

The unit limit is set dynamically per game via script.txt, it's not a configurable parameter in ~/.springrc (which is what Settings++ is a frontend for).

vital · Post by **vital** » 12 Jun 2007, 11:21

Kloot wrote:The unit limit is set dynamically per game via script.txt, it's not a configurable parameter in ~/.springrc (which is what Settings++ is a frontend for).

OK, but how can I change it? in the settings panel of the windows version, thee is a option to change the unit limit.

clericvash · Post by **clericvash** » 12 Jun 2007, 12:50

Kloot wrote:
vital wrote: I'm still looking for how to change the maximum unit limit that is'nt available in the settings++ .
The unit limit is set dynamically per game via script.txt, it's not a configurable parameter in ~/.springrc (which is what Settings++ is a frontend for).

It is a condigurable setting, how do you think we change it on windows

Post by **Kloot** » 12 Jun 2007, 13:20

Not via settings.exe

Here's an example section from a script.txt generated by tasclient that should convince you:

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[GAME]
{
        Mapname=Green Comet Basic.smf;
        Gametype=XTAPE.sd7;
        StartMetal=1000;
        StartEnergy=1000;
        MaxUnits=1000;
        ...
}

For Springer, it should be easy to add a slider that sets the MaxUnits variable, but you'll have to ask Slamoid, not me.

AF · Post by AF » 12 Jun 2007, 14:06

I wouldnt go beyond 10k, thats the internal limit spring uses, some AIs regularly use a 5k limit on area radius checks too.

Slamoid · Post by **Slamoid** » 12 Jun 2007, 14:48

Kloot wrote:For Springer, it should be easy to add a slider that sets the MaxUnits variable

Will be added to next release.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 12 Jun 2007, 19:13

AF wrote:I wouldnt go beyond 10k, thats the internal limit spring uses, some AIs regularly use a 5k limit on area radius checks too.

Doesn't it crash past 5k?

AF · Post by AF » 12 Jun 2007, 20:14

I doubt any game has 5001 units within a 200 pixel radius

Icebird · Post by **Icebird** » 12 Jun 2007, 22:49

I've got an error here with 0.3 and python 2.4

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icebird@nea ~/.spring $ ./Springer 
RuntimeError: Bad magic number in .pyc file

Maybe you compiled it with python 2.5 ?
Also, why don't you ship the (source) .py file ?

Slamoid · Post by **Slamoid** » 16 Jun 2007, 20:02

Yes, I'm using 2.5 for the distribution PYC.

I'm not shipping the PY *yet* because I wanted the features more solid before everyone started modifying the source code. Once this is almost on-par with some of the Windows single-player systems, I'll start letting go of the .PY s.

On the development side, while it's slowed, it hasn't stopped. Right now I'm putting in mod-specific Sides and Maps support; I'm trying to find a *GOOD* ai to bundle with this menu system, that way all the mod and AI and side configs can be pre-made and shipped with the menu. I should have this feature finished somtime this month. I'll be working all next week and out of town half next week (Work.... sigh), but I'll try to have this more on the finished side by July.

clericvash · Post by **clericvash** » 18 Jun 2007, 14:24

Got any shots of what it looks like?

Nonor · Post by **Nonor** » 19 Jun 2007, 15:17

Lippy · Post by **Lippy** » 19 Jun 2007, 15:51

Nonor wrote:I've just tried it to get screenshots and... Woooow ! I'm impressed ! Dude, you got something very clean and nice here ! Pleaaaase continue your work on it, Spring Lobby seems very good to me ! (Well.... Even if I also think that we should be able to watch hosted games while chatting....)

Anyway, screenshots :

You sure you got the right thread?

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Springer: The small, cheap little single-player system

Springer: The small, cheap little single-player system