Admin abuse on [TERA]Host2 - 1. April 2013

[HosenJack]

Dear spring, especially BA community,

i rarely use the forums to post about my issues with other players / admins, because i know that it's exhausting to judge good and bad.

In the last time i had seen several things which i couldn't judge myself, and after what happenend in the last hour, i'm expressly asking for hearing and estimation about this incident.

I took the time to translate german, and drop notes between the lines

#1 6 vs 7 players, i was unready
[13:05:41] <Adobe_Photoshop> !spec [LOeT]Emission
[13:05:42] * [TERA]Host2 * Adobe_Photoshop called a vote for command "force [LOeT]Emission spec" [!vote y, !vote n, !vote b]
[13:05:42] * [TERA]Host2 * 13 users allowed to vote.
[13:05:42] <[SKAA]slovak_killer> !ring
[13:05:42] * [TERA]Host2 * Ringing 13 remaining voters (by [SKAA]slovak_killer)
[13:05:47] <CaptainWillard> !y
[13:05:47] * [TERA]Host2 * Vote in progress: "force [LOeT]Emission spec" [y:2/8, n:0/7] (40s remaining)
[13:05:50] <[LOeT]Emission> so senseless
[13:05:51] <[LOeT]Brenner> !spec emiss
#2 First admin abuse, i was there, but unready because number of players wasn't even, and i always take a look at the teams before i really play a game. Also, he could have just let the people vote, if i had been specced by democracy, it would've been ok for me, but this is wrong.
[13:05:51] * [TERA]Host2 * Cancelling "force [LOeT]Emission spec" vote (command executed directly by [LOeT]Brenner)
[13:05:54] <[LOeT]Emission> but as you like
[13:05:59] <[LOeT]Emission> ................................................................
[13:06:05] <[LOeT]Emission> Are you all dumb ?
[13:06:13] <[LOeT]Brenner> !ring
[13:06:13] * [TERA]Host2 * Ringing unready/unsynced player(s): [LOeT]Emission (by [LOeT]Brenner)
[13:06:13] <[Fx]Bluestone> stop prevent the game from strating
#3 As the number of players was uneven, i wasn't preventing anything from starting. Somehow, after Brenner specced me, one of another spectators unspecced and it was uneven again. At this point i have to admin that my upset-O-meter raised.
[13:06:16] <CaptainWillard> no, only you
[13:06:22] <[LOeT]Brenner> the fuck emission
[13:06:25] <[RLD]Hektor> What do you think about Lenovo Y580 with i7-3530QM, GTX 660M, 16GB RAM and 500GB SSD?
[13:06:26] <[DoR]Isildur[teh]> 7v7 is good
[13:06:26] <[LOeT]Emission> as long as its 6 vs 7 there's no fucking reason
[13:06:28] <[LOeT]Emission> to spec me
[13:06:29] <[LOeT]Brenner> ready up or spec
#4 There's no need for players to be ready on uneven player numbers.
[13:06:34] <[Fx]Bluestone> he readies/unreadies whenever its even/odd until we get to 16
[13:06:36] <[Fx]Bluestone> does it all the time
#5 I was the first player on mondays TERA matches. Im bringing effort nearly every day to get as much players as possible to TERA, because i'm a fan of 8 vs 8. Even 7 vs 7 is not even satisfying me the half as 8 vs 8, i just like it big and epic. Isn't it my good right to be unready the player numbers are uneven, and to spectate and let the people play if i don't feel like 7 vs 7 / if i don't like the teams? I was in but unready at 7 vs 7, because primary it was more important for me to discuss about the speccing.
[13:06:39] <CaptainWillard> !bkick [LOeT]Emission
#6 Just trolling for no reason.
[13:06:39] * [TERA]Host2 * CaptainWillard called a vote for command "bKick [LOeT]Emission" [!vote y, !vote n, !vote b]
[13:06:39] * [TERA]Host2 * 21 users allowed to vote.
[13:06:40] <[LOeT]Emission> if its my choice to only sign up for 7 vs 7 then it is
[13:06:43] <[LOeT]Brenner> !spec emiss
#7 It was again 6 vs 7 players after speccing me. Admin abuse #2 My upset-O-meter raises again.
[13:06:53] <AntiAllez> !vy
[13:06:53] * [TERA]Host2 * Invalid command "vy"
[13:06:57] ** [KO1]RageQuit verliess die Kampf( ).
#8 After being specced the second time i didn't get back in...
[13:06:59] * [TERA]Host2 * Away vote mode for 15 users
[13:06:59] * [TERA]Host2 * Vote in progress: "bKick [LOeT]Emission" [y:1/4(11), n:0/3(11), votes:1/8] (25s remaining)
[13:07:07] <[LOeT]Brenner> !cbalance
[13:07:08] * [TERA]Host2 * Balancing according to current balance mode: clan;skill (3 smurfs found, balance deviation: 0%)
[13:07:10] <CaptainWillard> !ring
[13:07:10] * [TERA]Host2 * Ringing 5 remaining voters (by CaptainWillard)
[13:07:24] * [TERA]Host2 * Vote for command "bKick [LOeT]Emission" failed (delay expired, away vote mode activated for 5 users).
[13:07:25] <[LOeT]Emission> now ill wait for the next player then unspec
#9 Revenge for speccing me 2 times on uneven player numbers. Play games with me, i create my own game, too. It was 6 vs 7 i was spectator.

[13:07:30] <[LOeT]Emission> for your retarded behaviour
[13:07:37] <[LOeT]Brenner> hör mit dem scheiß auf
"Stop the shit"
[13:07:46] <CaptainWillard> if you ry we're 7v7 dumbass
#10 And if i don't want 7 vs 7, but waiting for 8 vs 8 ???
[13:07:54] <[LOeT]Emission> das ist kein scheiss
"That's no shit"
[13:07:55] <[LOeT]Brenner> nur weil du admin rechte hast, bedeutet es nicht, dass du alles machen kannst was du willst
"Just because you got admin rights, it doesn't mean that you can do what you like."
[13:07:59] <[LOeT]Emission> ich mag halt große games
"I just like big games"
[13:08:10] <[LOeT]Brenner> keinen kümmert's
"Nobody's interested"
[13:08:12] <[LOeT]Emission> meine freie entscheidung für kleinere nicht ready zu sein
It's my free decision to be unready for small games."
[13:08:23] <Adobe_Photoshop> any reason in particular to troll now, emission? :)
[13:08:24] <CaptainWillard> we could set maxplayer to 7v7
[13:08:28] <[LOeT]Emission> das hab ich auch schon vorher gemacht ohne adminrechte
"I've also done this before, without admin rights"
[13:08:32] <[LOeT]Brenner> du kannst dich aber wirklich nicht benehmen
"You can't behave"
[13:08:36] <[LOeT]Emission> unbd das hat damit nichts zu tun
"And it has nothing do to about admin rights."
[13:08:58] <[LOeT]Brenner> nein, weil dann würde ich dich längst bannen, wenn du sowas machen würdest
"No, because then i'd ban you, if you'd do such things."
Comment: ??? Do what? My upset-O-meter nearly at maximum.
[13:09:03] <CaptainWillard> mission is a selfish admin, no sense of service or what
According to his previous behavior, this kind of peoples opinions have no worth to me.
[13:09:08] <Adobe_Photoshop> would be cool if lobby had an option to translate in place
[13:09:14] <CaptainWillard> he does things oinly for him
[13:09:23] <[LOeT]Brenner> machst alle LOeT durch solches benehmen schlecht
"You make LOeT bad with your behaviour"
[13:09:26] <CaptainWillard> i'd fire him as admin if i could
...
[13:09:38] <Adobe_Photoshop> 25 mins later and still no game started lol
From [13:05:41] to [13:09:38] it's 3 min and 57 seconds for me. Add a minute what i didn't copy before, so 5 minutes at all.
[13:09:43] <CaptainWillard> until ge's 15
[13:09:49] <CaptainWillard> *he
[13:09:51] <[LOeT]Emission> ich bin mir keiner schuld bewusst
"I don't feel guilty in any form."
[13:09:57] ** [Bant]Sinterklaas hat die Kampf.
[13:09:57] * [TERA]Host2 * Hi [Bant]Sinterklaas, welcome to the [TERA]Host2 auto host!
[13:09:57] <[LOeT]Brenner> das ist schade
"That's sad."
[13:10:00] ** Tyberius verliess die Kampf( ).
[13:10:01] <[LOeT]Emission> ich war heute hier mal wieder erster auf dem servewr
"Today, again i was first on this server."
[13:10:14] <CaptainWillard> !bkick [LOeT]Emission
Living and letting live, heh?
[13:10:15] * [TERA]Host2 * CaptainWillard called a vote for command "bKick [LOeT]Emission" [!vote y, !vote n, !vote b]
[13:10:15] * [TERA]Host2 * 20 users allowed to vote.
[13:10:18] <CaptainWillard> :ring
[13:10:18] <[DoR]Isildur[teh]> !specafk
[13:10:18] * [TERA]Host2 * Unable to find any unready AFK player to spec
[13:10:19] ** Tyberius hat die Kampf.
[13:10:20] * [TERA]Host2 * Hi Tyberius, welcome to the [TERA]Host2 auto host!
[13:10:20] <[LOeT]Emission> ich hab die leute hierher gebracht um zu meinem ziel zu kommen
"I've brought people here to get to my aim"
[13:10:21] <Adobe_Photoshop> !ring geri
[13:10:21] * [TERA]Host2 * Ringing geri2011 (by Adobe_Photoshop)
[13:10:21] <[LOeT]Emission> 8 vs 8
"My aim was 8 vs 8"
[13:10:22] <CaptainWillard> !ring
[13:10:22] * [TERA]Host2 * Ringing 19 remaining voters (by CaptainWillard)
[13:10:23] <Adobe_Photoshop> !ring geri
[13:10:24] * [TERA]Host2 * Unable to ring geri2011 (ring spam protection, please wait 18s)
[13:10:25] <[LOeT]Brenner> niemanden kümmert's wo du als erster warst
"Nobody cares if you were first here.
Comment: Maybe the server would be empty now if i wouldn't have started filling it. You should be grateful instead of cruel.
[13:10:26] <[Fx]Bluestone> ffs emission
#10 Another player joined, and i unspecced and readied, so it was 8 vs 7, all ready.
[13:10:27] <Adobe_Photoshop> !ring geri
[13:10:28] * [TERA]Host2 * Unable to ring geri2011 (ring spam protection, please wait 13s)
[13:10:30] <geri2011> im her
[13:10:32] <[DoR]Isildur[teh]> !vote 1
[13:10:33] * [TERA]Host2 * Vote in progress: "bKick [LOeT]Emission" [y:2/11, n:0/11] (27s remaining)
[13:10:33] <[Fx]Bluestone> !spec emiss
#11 He specced me to start a 7 vs 7, when i was ready and waiting like everyone else. Admin abuse #3, and the worst out of the 3. My upset-O-meter exploded.
[13:10:34] * [TERA]Host2 * Away vote mode for 19 users
[13:10:35] * [TERA]Host2 * Vote in progress: "bKick [LOeT]Emission" [y:2/2(11), n:0/1(11), votes:2/8] (25s remaining)
[13:10:35] <[Fx]Bluestone> !start
[13:10:35] * [TERA]Host2 * Unable to start game, autoBalance is enabled but battle hasn't been balanced yet - use !forceStart to bypass
[13:10:38] <CaptainWillard> !start
[13:10:38] * [TERA]Host2 * Vote cancelled, launching game...
[13:10:42] ** Knofi hat die Kampf.
[13:10:42] * [TERA]Host2 * Hi Knofi, welcome to [TERA]Host2 auto host
[13:11:00] <[TERA]Host2> <[Fx]Bluestone> brb, sec
[13:11:00] <[TERA]Host2> <[LOeT]Emission> For what spec ?
[13:11:03] <[TERA]Host2> <[LOeT]Emission> I was ready
[13:11:09] <[TERA]Host2> <[Fx]Bluestone> for preventing game start for past 1/2 hour
#12 from [13:05:41] to [13:11:09] it's 5 minutes and 28 seconds. I think he knew that it was slightly above 5 minutes and couldn't admit he did something really wrong.
[13:11:17] ** maychyaexe hat die Kampf.
#13 From [13:10:33] to [13:11:17] it's 40 seconds. 40 seconds which could made me not write this post because i happily found my satisfying 8 vs 8 after ~6 minutes of wait. Somehow, my impression of Bluestone was that he preferred to show off some admin power and bitchslap some other admins around with it, also, to join Brenner's position.
Was this really neccesary, for this 40 seconds?
[13:11:17] * [TERA]Host2 * Hi maychyaexe, welcome to [TERA]Host2 auto host
[13:11:26] <[LOeT]Emission> not true it was 6 minutes maximum
I have a good time feeling, heh.
[13:11:32] <[LOeT]Emission> Now there's the 16th player
[13:11:39] <[LOeT]Emission> and you couldnt wait 10 secs more
Or not, it was 40
[13:11:51] <[LOeT]Emission> Definately admin abuse of you Bluestone, Brenner you too
[13:11:56] <[LOeT]Emission> Mich kümmerts auch nicht
"It's not of my interest too."
[13:11:59] <[TERA]Host2> <[LOeT]Brenner> no
[13:12:07] <[LOeT]Emission> Nur weil ich admin bin heißt das nicht das du mir machen kannst was du willst
"Just because I'm admin it doesn't mean that i deserve special threats."
[13:12:09] <[LOeT]Emission> Idiot
Actually sorry for that, but my upset-O-meter disallowed me not saying this.
[13:12:22] <[TERA]Host2> <[LOeT]Brenner> ich bin idiot
"Im idiot?"
[13:12:26] <[TERA]Host2> <[LOeT]Brenner> ok
[13:12:44] <[LOeT]Emission> Echt ein lächerliches Verhalten das ihr hier an den Tag bringt
"You'r behavior is ridicolous at all."
[13:12:44] <[TERA]Host2> <[Mr]Meth> some diss inside loets ?
[13:12:50] <[TERA]Host2> <Adobe_Photoshop> ich bin robot
[13:13:05] <[TERA]Host2> <[LOeT]Brenner> only between emission & all other players
#14 Definately not true. I can't understand how he can be saying things like this, provocating the hate even more.
[13:13:09] <[TERA]Host2> <[Mr]Meth> :D
[13:13:17] <[LOeT]Emission> Benutz mal deine Admin Rechte um wirklich nervige AFK-Spieler zu speccen, und nicht die Leute die ready sind und spielen wollen
"Why don't you use your admin rights to spec afk-players in lobby (Which i mostly do when people don't get votes through, several people have already been grateful that i save their time), instead of speccing ready players which actually want to play?"
[13:13:29] <[TERA]Host2> <Adobe_Photoshop> emission whats your problem, you seem a cool guy
[13:13:29] <[LOeT]Emission> Kümmerst dich an den falschen Stellen um das Allgemeinwohl
"You take care of the good of everyone, but at the wrong locations."
[13:13:30] <[TERA]Host2> <[LOeT]Brenner> jaja
[13:13:32] <[TERA]Host2> <[Fx]Bluestone> +1 to what brenner said
As i said, grouping up. For me that has something of ghetto behavior, don't take this as an insult.
[13:13:34] <[TERA]Host2> <Adobe_Photoshop> like putin
[13:13:35] <[LOeT]Emission> Aber Hauptsache gegen mich
[13:13:39] <[LOeT]Emission> Richtig kindisch
" You are grouping up against me, that's really childish."
[13:14:19] <[TERA]Host2> <[LOeT]Brenner> meth
[13:15:08] <[LOeT]Emission> I never ever said this before but
[13:15:12] <[LOeT]Emission> Ill report this to paste
[13:15:19] <[LOeT]Emission> can't be you spec ready players
[13:17:16] <[LOeT]Emission> Actually ill put in the forums
[13:17:33] <[LOeT]Emission> I want to more people to tell me i did wrong
[13:17:41] <[LOeT]Emission> Then we'll see

All in all, my 2 intentions of this post were:

1. Please tell me if i did wrong / if this was no admin abuse else..

2. To make this, and other harassments public, so they might think twice before judging that fast about a representative of TERA host.

It took me about a hour to write this in a clean way, just to underline how important this is for me.

Thanks in advance,

[LOeT]Emission

[gajop]

stopped reading here: [13:06:05]
well actually here: [13:07:30]

[Silentwings]

[13:06:26] <[DoR]Isildur[teh]> 7v7 is good

[13:08:24] <CaptainWillard> we could set maxplayer to 7v7

[13:05:42] * [TERA]Host2 * Adobe_Photoshop called a vote for command "force [LOeT]Emission spec" [!vote y, !vote n, !vote b]

[13:05:51] * [TERA]Host2 * Cancelling "force [LOeT]Emission spec" vote (command executed directly by [LOeT]Brenner)

[13:06:13] <[Fx]Bluestone> stop preventing the game from strating

i just like it big and epic. Isn't it my good right to be unready the player numbers are uneven, and to spectate and let the people play if i don't feel like 7 vs 7 ?

Consensus is, no.

[Floris]

stopped reading here: [13:06:05]
well actually here: [13:07:30]

Yup



Sometimes you can pull it off to be unready with uneven amount, but you cannot force this every time, and see it as your right. There are other players waiting...



Btw why are you posting about admin abuse? Last time I checked you were admin yourself.... "You are 'violating' the terms of TERA by not dealing with the issue with admin pm-chat." You know who and where to contact.

[[LOeT]Brenner]

Who is tired to read whole chat, read this:

We were 7v7 (even), he wasnt ready, becouse he wanted 8v8. So i specced him, so we could start if someone else would join.
He kept unspeccing. Later Bluestone specced him (probably at 7v8, but everyone was already sick from his behaivior) & we started.

EDIT: Also he got ringed few times & other players already tried to spec & kick him.

[dansan]

<3 TERA opera - can we have a "TERA admin abuse" subforum?

[[LOeT]Brenner]

<3 TERA opera - can we have a "TERA admin abuse" subforum?

For this topic there must be a special subforum "TERA admin abuse against admins".

[HosenJack]

Thanks for those reasonable arguments!

stopped reading here: [13:06:05]
well actually here: [13:07:30]

It really helps me with the key question, to find out if i did something forbidden / bad by being unready on uneven player numbers.

If you got nothing to say, then say nothing.

You stopped reading because i asked "Are you all dumb?"

So whats your reason for stopping there, if the mass does do a thing you can make sure it's right? I don't understand such postings, especially from a moderator, no offense..

At all, you are just making fun about this thread, so if you don't want to discuss about the question i asked, delete this thread if it's so insignificant.

Else start argumentating like adults. Thanks!

[gajop]

We are not moderating the autohosts (it's a sticky): http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=28199

Furthermore, in order to even consider something abuse, the supposed victim can't also be the instigator of insults/trolling.

[HosenJack]

If your opinion is that i was being the instigator for this "riot" i respect your opinion, nevertheless you didn't present me cogent arguments.

So far i have to presume that your notion about me being an instigator is structured like this:

1. [LOeT]Emission wait's for big games.

Ok!

2. [LOeT]Emission is not being ready on uneven player numbers (6vs7)

Not Ok!

3. [LOeT]Emission get's specced by [LOeT]Brenner for not being ready on uneven player numbers

Ok!

4. [LOeT]Emission thinks that not being ready on uneven player numbers is

Ok!,

furhtermore he wanted to express that he finds spectating unready players on uneven player numbers is

Not Ok!,

so he announced to wait and unspec after the next player joined, to protect himself of getting specced constantly, also because it is

Ok!

for him and he doesn't see why that should be bad behavior if he's ready as soon as its 8 vs 7 --

Not Ok!

Right so far? I just want to understand your conclusion of me to be the instigator.

[HosenJack]

stopped reading here: [13:06:05]
well actually here: [13:07:30]

Yup



Sometimes you can pull it off to be unready with uneven amount, but you cannot force this every time, and see it as your right. There are other players waiting...



Btw why are you posting about admin abuse? Last time I checked you were admin yourself.... "You are 'violating' the terms of TERA by not dealing with the issue with admin pm-chat." You know who and where to contact.

You want to know why? Here you go

[17:57:27] <[LOeT]Emission> results ?
[17:57:36] <[LOeT]Emission> !stop
[17:57:36] * [TERA]Host2 * Stopping server (by [LOeT]Emission)
[17:57:36] * [TERA]Host2 * Game result undecided!
[17:57:37] * [TERA]Host2 * Server stopped (running time: 58 minutes and 56 seconds)
[17:57:40] <[LOeT]Emission> :S
[17:57:46] <[AOE]ShocKwave> was my fault do not kill their lol first
[17:57:46] <Floris> dude fuck u

Does this look like a pm ? Afterwards you explained me that the server needs time to show results, but first you told me to fuck myself. Great!

Also i don't want to go on Paste's nerves, he told me to solve problems my own way, and what am i doing here ?

I'm playing Sherlock Holmes until you offer me respect.

And the incident from 13:00 is definately admin abuse of Bluestone & Brenner, you just can't admit it

"Who is tired to read whole chat" -> Means don't read the whole chat or you might get to know what's actually going on.
"(probably at 7v8, but everyone was already sick from his behaivior)"
Who is everyone? CaptainWillard? It was probably 7 vs 8? Just probably ?

"i just like it big and epic. Isn't it my good right to be unready the player numbers are uneven, and to spectate and let the people play if i don't feel like 7 vs 7 Consensus is, no. "

No, it ain't Consensus if you think about it properly.
>Im waiting for 8 vs 8, being unready at 6 vs 7
>A player joins, it's 7 vs 7, people want to start, but i don't feel like playing 7 vs 7, so i go spec.
> 6 vs 7 again, another player joins, its 7 vs 7
>(Hooray, just 1 more player to go 8 vs 8 ) I unspec, its 8 vs 7.

The opposite of this would be: Spectate until it's 7 vs 7, then join in, but actually that doesn't make a big difference.
Or wait outside of the gameroom and stare at the lobby server list until im allowed to join?
Too risky for me to be unable to get in at last

Sometimes people join the server and say things to me like
"Hi im just a helper to get more players, spectate me if you want to start, ill be ready for 8 vs 8 only, until then i'll be unready so that i can make sure it's 8 vs 8 before you start."

I respect this kind of behavior and im actually grateful for "Helpers to get more players to play epic 8 vs 8" and i can't see any of your all arguments which show me that i didnt do exactly the same, just with not being afk.

It's just.. If Bluestone could have wait 40 seconds more we'd be all happy and this thread wouldn't exist, but it seems that his itching spechappy triggerfinger was too fast.

Please give your arguments foundations if you want to discuss with me, i take things precise.

[muckl]

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[HosenJack]

Did the forum language just change.. ?

That picture really fits to Brenners & Bluestones behaviour, it should have been me who posted it.
Actually i never had the time to discuss about my problems with other admins at the springforums, but hey, today i got a Free day, and if you choose to prevent me from playing spring by spectating me being ready on 8 vs 7, i use the time that i could be playing to write a thread like this.

:-D

Also, i was not willing to start fickfuck pm wars with any of the mentioned (damn, i love this word) admin-abusers.
We got that already, it leads to nothing, and im certain that i've chosen the better and more democratic way.

[bibim]

Hmmmm, april fool?

The AutoSpec plugin might be useful for such cases.

[klapmongool]

Emission is in part responsible for the 8V8DSD-degradation of BA. And that is not a compliment. Good to see you are losing your admins rights.

On other hosts he would try to hold up games as long as possible (also by ready-unreadying at the right time) and then when people got sick of the delay he would propose to go to a DSD host. Repeatedly.

[Silentwings]

On other hosts he would try to hold up games as long as possible (also by ready-unreadying at the right time) and then when people got sick of the delay he would propose to go to a DSD host. Repeatedly.

The AutoSpec plugin might be useful for such cases.

@bibim: I looked at that plugin and although I don't speak perl that well, I think that when it autospecs someone it doesn't force them to remain a spec for, say, 30 seconds or suchlike. Would it be possible to add this option to prevent the sort of behaviour seen above?

@klap: if you want to vote, there is a thread here: http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=30074.

[klapmongool]

@klap: if you want to vote, there is a thread here: http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=30074.

My point is that he makes BA worse with or without admin rights, especially on other hosts than TERA. Since I don't play on TERA hosts I don't feel the need to vote on that subject.

[bibim]

@bibim: I looked at that plugin and although I don't speak perl that well, I think that when it autospecs someone it doesn't force them to remain a spec for, say, 30 seconds or suchlike. Would it be possible to add this option to prevent the sort of behaviour seen above?

Indeed the plugin doesn't prevent someone to unspec just after he got speced. But this is done on purpose, because there are several cases where the user should be able to unspec fast (for example he just got back from afk period, or he just finished downloading the map, etc.).

So you're right, in the case detailed in this topic, the plugin wouldn't solve the problem entirely. The plugin is mainly done to fight the most frequent "staying unready/unsync" problem, which is someone being afk. However, the plugin might have some effect even on players staying unready on purpose, because it forces them to unspec manually every minute or so (depending on configuration).

[Jools]

Would it be possible to create some kind of a specban? A ban that forces you to spec for the duration of the ban.

[klapmongool]

Would it be possible to create some kind of a specban? A ban that forces you to spec for the duration of the ban.

That already exists? At least I used something similar a while back.