Spring:1944 dev and testing

1v0ry_k1ng · Post by **1v0ry_k1ng** » 30 Apr 2007, 20:35

I know its possible from a mod called "dozers" which used directional shields... it might be a bit hackish though

FLOZi · Post by **FLOZi** » 30 Apr 2007, 20:37

well yes, Shields are another thing. I should say that pure directional damage in the way I intended wasn't 100% reliable because of the way collision detection is handled for ballistic weapons.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 30 Apr 2007, 21:14

SpikedHelmet wrote:Alright, here goes...

YouTube Video of Tank Battle!

Explicit lyrics. Shout-outs to Snoop & Crew.

That is probably some of the most horrible "music" I've ever been subjected to.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 30 Apr 2007, 21:17

KDR_11k wrote:That is probably some of the most horrible "music" I've ever been subjected to.

AAaggghh, +1

/me is put off s1944 forever

1v0ry_k1ng · Post by **1v0ry_k1ng** » 30 Apr 2007, 21:36

re-do it to the dads army theme!

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 30 Apr 2007, 22:36

Well, I had to admit, the tank turret bouncing was kinda funny, but the rest was lame.

Deathblane · Post by **Deathblane** » 01 May 2007, 01:07

1v0ry_k1ng wrote:re-do it to the dads army theme!

+1 million

Shadowsage · Post by **Shadowsage** » 01 May 2007, 01:51

Just a quick thing here: If you are doing navy and Japan, i had a very...interesting idea.

Kamikazi planes.

I know what you are thinking, units cant be launched from carriers as attack order, blah-blah-blah.

All I am thinking of is a remade missle model with a flight deck as the Barbette thing. (Probably not spelt correctly)

Just a thought.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 01 May 2007, 02:54

animation and limited weapon arc... My gosh, it could work! That would be so badass!

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » 01 May 2007, 03:40

Japanese are long distant. We're going to focus on the European theatre for now.

Missle models have to be a single object, and thus the plane would look rather odd (no spinning propeller, for example).

We'll figure something out when we get to the japanese.

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 01 May 2007, 04:32

Alright, alright, I made another one, to a different soundtrack. Enjoy!

March of the Peng... Panzers

Notice the white dirt? Wtf is that?

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 01 May 2007, 04:35

A helluva lot better, and 1000 times more suiting. The synced part was pretty cool, with the slowed down tank shot :D

Edit: O.o Did a patch get submitted to make units make curved turns? I noticed it towards the end,

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 01 May 2007, 11:53

Sounds like Frank Klepacki... is it from RA2?
And why do the tanks all have coke dispensers?

tombom · Post by **tombom** » 01 May 2007, 12:17

rattle wrote:Sounds like Frank Klepacki... is it from RA2?
And why do the tanks all have coke dispensers?

You knew it was Frank Klepacki but you didn't recognise Hell March?

It's that one in the intro to the original Red Alert.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 01 May 2007, 13:50

There was a similar one in RA2 IIRC.

Warlord Zsinj · Post by **Warlord Zsinj** » 02 May 2007, 03:24

Showcasing some of the wonders of Spring pathfinding.

BumperTanks for the win!

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 03 May 2007, 11:06

ISU-152 pwns at bumpertanks.

Under 1000 polys

Model mostly by Felix, though I fixed it up a bit.

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 03 May 2007, 14:41

Okay something's odd.

How do you calc armour for turretless vehicles? I'm trying to figure out what the ISU-152's health should be but I'm getting confusing results...

As it doesn't have a turret I removed all of that crap, added the shit up, divided by 14 instead of 22, but I'm getting a lower health than even the fucking M4A3 (76) Sherman...

ISU-152 should have 90mm front, 75mm-90mm sides, and 60mm rear... Sherman has 58-108mm frontal, 38mm sides and rear hull, and 90mm turret... just doesn't seem right. Also, I don't necessarily agree that the turret front warrents 5 "points" compared to hull front's 4... also who brought up that good point that armour quality also plays an important part.. As in 50mm of welded steel armour is better than 50mm of riveted armour...

FLOZi · Post by **FLOZi** » 03 May 2007, 20:30

Did you forget to consider angles?

Plugging values from tarrif into the spreadsheet gives me 9304, which is the same sort of HP as Panther and Tiger. Seems reasonable to me?

edit: And it was me that brought up armour quality, latest HitByWeapID_S44.h in SVN allows you to #define QUALITY, or defaults to the current one, which is 0.025 * 65536. You probably don't want to go over 0.05 * 65536

edit2: Out of interest IS-2 comes out as 13108 which is between Jagdpanther and Tiger II.

edit3: An alternative (using 60mm @12 deg instead of 90 @60deg for front lower) results in 11915 for ISU-152, which seems better, perhaps.

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 03 May 2007, 22:11

Sufficed to say, my result was considerably lower than 9304...

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