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Posted: 06 Sep 2007, 01:59
by FoeOfTheBee
Here is the last spring version before the switch to XTAPE.

http://taspring.clan-sy.com/dl/taspring_0.67b3.exe

Posted: 06 Sep 2007, 11:25
by pintle
Have fun making nothing but t1 gunships and crashers, and wondering why you cant build anything in the sea without e stalling.


edit: i forgot, op zipper/freakers

Posted: 06 Sep 2007, 12:21
by Sleksa
AND HUNGRY HUNGRY AKS!

Posted: 06 Sep 2007, 14:33
by 1v0ry_k1ng
and ravens can still send sumos flying off the map :-)

Posted: 06 Sep 2007, 18:20
by pintle
oh yeah and aa ships> all naval units

Posted: 07 Sep 2007, 01:07
by FoeOfTheBee
Download XTA .66 here:

http://spring.unknown-files.net/file/35 ... _v066.sdz/

It's great. Wish we'd stuck with it.

Posted: 09 Sep 2007, 02:53
by Linebacker
By the way: is this XTA v9.1 an official release? Is there already a support for any AI?

Posted: 09 Sep 2007, 03:00
by 1v0ry_k1ng
supported by AAI, RAI 0.55, KAI 0.12, NTAI with XTA profile.
that is, all the AIs.

Wow

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 01:28
by EnlightenedOne
Well the modifications are going ahead at an intresting speed weve hit afew technical hiccups but DeadRabit(mostly) and I are progressing onwards, hes had a fiddle with a fairamount of the build ques ps thanks for the much earlier versions foe suprised to see you around here as i cant remember the last time you played, anyway heres a quick leak on where were at. So far were using 0.95 as a base version, we can go further back later on possibly if were not happy with 0.95s balance when its sorted out. I know DR has run into some technical difficulties with weapon modifcations and he has rearranged the build ques into a more logical order.

Were considering afew minor changes such as removing the commanders laser and giving him a weak scout disabling after 3 shots paralyzer gun. Although changes like that happen anything were not happy with or the oldskool players arnt happy with can be changed when its experimented with. Right now were focusing on restoring arm (I personally cant wait to change the amount of health the Goliath has back to some redicuous digit).

One thing to point out that is that XTA has changed and the balance changes have been intresting and well thought out by the developers. If you have ever played a game of oldskool spring you will understand that this is not an attempt to stretch out the people playing XTA or too attack XTA but more of a means of restoring an old crowd of people in games I think had larger scale battles and albeit sometimes unfair games always very very entertaining matches.

When they come good In XTA 9.1 they get very good but when was the last time you saw 5 people on a cool map like Azures fighting over the geos in that weird ninja star type shape a 5 player match could go on for 2 and a half hours along time ago!

When was the last time you saw 4 berthas on each side of flooded desert and lasers lining the sea with goliaths and various other tanks holding the middle whilst everyone struggles to maintain themselves from nukes and storm the sides of the land with amphibious tanks? If you can relate it was probably over a year ago, damn that map is underplayed, and if there isnt something charming about how oldskool versions of xta played out then thered be alot less chatter in this forum.

I hope to see you all at least trying it out :p, controversially I feel that the map designs and amount of metal available have also changed with the mod design, very rare to have large ranged metal extractors these days, I like them makes it more territorial.

Everyone knows if you go ships you have a disadvantage in the short term

That was quite a blog, back to figuring out whats wrong with those weapons.....

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 01:30
by EnlightenedOne
actually when was the last time you saw multiple berthas or intimidators on both teams in XTA?

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 02:13
by Tim-the-maniac
yesterday, also add 11 tactical nuke launchers for me and about the same number of antis on the other team, the sky was pretty much a large black cloud :]
not that I dont support you, I played a few games of 0.66 SE the other day and it was v fun :-)

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 03:01
by pintle
BB/timmy have been buffed considerabley in newer xta.

Golly hp nerf? they have less hp/cost than reapers, which have less hp/cost than bullies.

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 07:06
by SwiftSpear
pintle wrote:BB/timmy have been buffed considerabley in newer xta.

Golly hp nerf? they have less hp/cost than reapers, which have less hp/cost than bullies.
Ya, but have you played with the 0.66SE golies? if you let a player get those up and have enough E to utilize them fully they are frigging monsters.

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 10:48
by pintle
0.66SE gollies are the same as 9.1 gollies :P

Gollies are great at frontal assaulting hard porc, but in almost every situation the same cost in sumos is vastly superior, given their far higher dps.

edit: 0.66se gollies corpse is worth *far* less metal than it should, fixed in 9.1

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 17:22
by 1v0ry_k1ng
also, i think the MAIN reason you dont see stuff llike endless lines of berthas trading shots with ships, bigger scale battles and 3 hour games was less to do with the mod and more to do with everyone being shit at playing it. after years of spring everyone is much better and have the ability to break porcs and end games faster. if we went back to 0.66 today i reckon games would be as short and fast paced as new xta gams are. you can still get bertha porc etc games in xta, you just have to play FFA or with noobs

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 17:33
by Tired
Given that the majority of players online at any given time are still new to Spring, I'd say that increased skill (average player skill = potato) has little to do with the presence or absense of LRPCs, or any other unit for that matter.

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 17:43
by 1v0ry_k1ng
Tired wrote:Given that the majority of players online at any given time are still new to Spring, I'd say that increased skill (average player skill = potato) has little to do with the presence or absense of LRPCs, or any other unit for that matter.
that isnt really the case in XTA though because its really only played by a small group of people. noobs cant really start with XTA because there is no other noobs to play with and the clans just bumrush em. ive played a few nooby games of XTA on autohosts though and i still saw endless dfens and LRPC wars.

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 19:39
by Neddie
Potato and/or desynced tomato.

Posted: 10 Sep 2007, 22:22
by SwiftSpear
XTA used to be the primary high end competitive mod. BA currently is. XTA was played at a far higher level than it currently is now. I doubt anyone still has matched SJ in his primetime at XTA. SJ vs Min3mat games were as entertaining to watch as any of the highest end BA games today.

Posted: 11 Sep 2007, 04:22
by FoeOfTheBee
SwiftSpear wrote:XTA used to be the primary high end competitive mod. BA currently is. XTA was played at a far higher level than it currently is now. I doubt anyone still has matched SJ in his primetime at XTA. SJ vs Min3mat games were as entertaining to watch as any of the highest end BA games today.
I'd say SJ vs. Red Dragon was the best match to watch.