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Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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Satirik
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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Pako wrote:
Satirik wrote:hell you don't know shit about network !
No, Zerver is right. Edit yor post or die in humiliation.
:shock: :shock: noob :roll:
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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if you want to test your port forwarding, use a port listener on your comp like this one, and then scan it from a website
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

Post by zerver »

Satirik wrote: :shock: :shock: noob :roll:
And I love you too!

Satirik, I'm certainly no networking expert, but I know well enough that all TCP/UDP packets have a port number. In this case NAT probably overrides port forwarding somehow. What I'm saying is that this is illogical behavior, but I'm not wrong.

If you want to learn, look at this picture
http://manuals.kerio.com/wrl/en/131.htm

You see that port 61001 in the response from the web server? This port was randomly selected by NAT to identify the computer behind the router. So if you strictly forward all ports, then NAT will fail for sure.
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

Post by momfreeek »

What would be the use of sending responses to somewhere other than the requester? Clearly 'port forwarding' is not a full literal description.
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

Post by zerver »

momfreeek wrote:What would be the use of sending responses to somewhere other than the requester?
Well, it makes the net pretty useless for those who cannot receive any incoming traffic, which can be useful for those who can (all ur bandwidth are belong to me). But there are many ways to accomplish the same thing.
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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zerver wrote:
Satirik wrote: :shock: :shock: noob :roll:
And I love you too!

Satirik, I'm certainly no networking expert, but I know well enough that all TCP/UDP packets have a port number. In this case NAT probably overrides port forwarding somehow. What I'm saying is that this is illogical behavior, but I'm not wrong.

If you want to learn, look at this picture
http://manuals.kerio.com/wrl/en/131.htm

You see that port 61001 in the response from the web server? This port was randomly selected by NAT to identify the computer behind the router. So if you strictly forward all ports, then NAT will fail for sure.
i know how it works, i just didn't get what you said (my bad, but i won't edit my post for that), but still it's logical to give the priority to the NAT
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

Post by very_bad_soldier »

Satirik wrote: i know how it works, i just didn't get what you said (my bad, but i won't edit my post for that), but still it's logical to give the priority to the NAT
Huh why is that logical? There is no need to give priority to one or the other. The router knows (based on the source IP) if a packet is a response (->NAT) or not (->port forwarding) and routes it accordingly. Thats what the NAT table is made for.
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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very_bad_soldier wrote:
Satirik wrote: i know how it works, i just didn't get what you said (my bad, but i won't edit my post for that), but still it's logical to give the priority to the NAT
Huh why is that logical? There is no need to give priority to one or the other. The router knows (based on the source IP) if a packet is a response (->NAT) or not (->port forwarding) and routes it accordingly. Thats what the NAT table is made for.
that's called priority, you check the nat first and then the port forwarding (which is logical behavior)

zervers thinks (that's what i didn't understand at first) incoming packet should always follow the port forwarding rules ignoring the NAT
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

Post by SirMaverick »

zerver wrote:This port was randomly selected by NAT to identify the computer behind the router.
No, to identify the connection.
zerver wrote:So if you strictly forward all ports, then NAT will fail for sure.
Satirik wrote:zervers thinks (that's what i didn't understand at first) incoming packet should always follow the port forwarding rules ignoring the NAT
I'd call this router broken.
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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zerver wrote:
momfreeek wrote:What would be the use of sending responses to somewhere other than the requester?
Well, it makes the net pretty useless for those who cannot receive any incoming traffic, which can be useful for those who can (all ur bandwidth are belong to me). But there are many ways to accomplish the same thing.
I'll rephrase: what use would one computer have with the responses to another computer's requests?

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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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What does this give when you enter the port needed for spring?
http://www.canyouseeme.org/
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

Post by zerver »

momfreeek wrote:I'll rephrase: what use would one computer have with the responses to another computer's requests?
None, they will be discarded unless the computer happens to be listening to that port for some reason.
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

Post by SirMaverick »

zerver wrote:
momfreeek wrote:I'll rephrase: what use would one computer have with the responses to another computer's requests?
None, they will be discarded unless the computer happens to be listening to that port for some reason.
For an end user in a client-server architecture this is probably not a use case.
This can be useful e.g. in cluster systems.
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

Post by Cheesecan »

Use DMZ mode.
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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Cheesecan wrote:Use DMZ mode.
let me make this clear, when i use DMZ mode, i must disable all port forwardings i've made ?
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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abma wrote:can you post a infolog.txt of a game you're hosting?

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Spring 0.82.7.1 (0.82.7.1)
Build date/time: Jan  8 2011 00:17:26
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Enabled log subsystems: Sound
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[f=0000000] Connection attempt from TradeMark
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[f=0000000]  -> Connection established (given id 0)
[f=0000000] Player TradeMark finished loading and is now ingame
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[f=0000000] WARNING: Opening socket on loopback address. Other users will not be able to connect!
[f=0000000] Binding UDP socket to IP (v4) 127.0.0.1 Port 8452
= WTF

i had the DMZ enabled. and all port forwardings disabled.
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Satirik
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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what lobby (version) ?
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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yes.. how do i fix this?
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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what lobby version ?
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Re: Fix my router and earn 1000Ôé¼

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tasclient 0.55
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