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About New Computer

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Senna
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About New Computer

Post by Senna » 20 Feb 2015, 01:11

Hello boys since long time afk in spring XD

i finally im buying a pc

i want people telling if this one is a good pc or not

Motherboard- AsRockFX990 EXTREME9 - 388usd

CPU- AMD FX 9590 - 352usd

HD-SSD OCC VERTEX4 128GB - 132usd

Cooling- Water Cooling Seidon 120v - 100usd

RAM- Gskill RIPJAWKS 2X4GB 2400MHZ -200usd

thats all i have

and i will buy this one

BOX-Corsair XFX around 100usd

Grafic- ATI RADEON 7950 433usd

pls need comments
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Re: About New Computer

Post by gajop » 20 Feb 2015, 04:57

128GB SSD isn't enough - you need a lot more space for 'storage'. Is that a hybrid (has a HDD) or just an SSD? 128GB is enough for apps ofc
I'd rather get one stick of 8GB now.
ATI is not the best gfx card for Spring/linux. Have you considered Nvidia?

PS: Do you really need to pay 388 USD for a motherboard? (Can't say I know the prices, but seems a bit steep)
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raaar
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Re: About New Computer

Post by raaar » 20 Feb 2015, 05:59

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Silentwings
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Silentwings » 20 Feb 2015, 08:25

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This.

On SSDs - I have laptops with a small (~120Gb) SSD and a large (~750Gb) normal hard disk. I use the SSD for OS & programs and put data on the other one. I think its a common thing to do & it this works very nicely.

Also why the water cooling? Nothing there strikes me as a temperature problem.
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Jools
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Jools » 20 Feb 2015, 10:51

I think separating OS from storage it's a very common thing to do, and spring should do more to support this. Spring data with all stuff like maps and replays can take up to 10 Gb, you probably don't want to include this on the SSD.

128 Gb is enough for the OS, but imo you can't have much smaller than that. Remember that the disk drives need to have a bit of free space to work best.
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BaNa
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Re: About New Computer

Post by BaNa » 20 Feb 2015, 11:14

I have an asrock motherboard, but I think I'll be staying away from the brand in the future, It's not the most reliable thing in the world. IMO Gigabyte or Asus are better.
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LordMuffe
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Re: About New Computer

Post by LordMuffe » 20 Feb 2015, 11:55

is the graphic-card thing still such a big difference between ati and nvidea? I use a ati mobile chip and it seems ok with Spring.
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Jools
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Jools » 20 Feb 2015, 12:00

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Just have to throw in this: it's now almost 10 years since ATI ceased to exist. We should really say AMD.
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Re: About New Computer

Post by PicassoCT » 20 Feb 2015, 13:22

Some things exist on, some parasitic companys cultures, worm there way through the victim, utterly disorientating it, forcing it to write horrible drivers that only work on a per game base, soon AMD will die, somebody else will eat the free meal, and the cycle of horror continues.

ATI cordicepes.. the horror
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Hoi
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Hoi » 20 Feb 2015, 17:53

Senna wrote:Hello boys since long time afk in spring XD

i finally im buying a pc

i want people telling if this one is a good pc or not

Motherboard- AsRockFX990 EXTREME9 - 388usd

CPU- AMD FX 9590 - 352usd

HD-SSD OCC VERTEX4 128GB - 132usd

Cooling- Water Cooling Seidon 120v - 100usd

RAM- Gskill RIPJAWKS 2X4GB 2400MHZ -200usd

thats all i have

and i will buy this one

BOX-Corsair XFX around 100usd

Grafic- ATI RADEON 7950 433usd

pls need comments
Bad for various reasons.

Why such an expensive motherboard? There is no point. Get one <$150. Seriously.

CPU - seems like your logic in choosing this cpu is finding the one with the most GHz for the lowest price. The FX9590 is not a good idea for various reasons - this thing takes a ridiculous amount of power, produces an incredible amount of heat (and noise) and suffers from overheating issues on all but the most expensive cooling set ups, and other problems. It has quite an old architecture that is just 'brute forced' to hit more GHz. I strongly recommend some nice i7 over this, even if it's GHz number is lower, it will run better and a lot more efficient, faster in many situations too.

Getting an ssd is neat, but you really need a hard disk too.

Water cooling is kind of a gimmick, but if you do it do it right.

Buy some normal ram. All this "gaming" ram nonsense is just a marketing scam to ask ridiculous amounts of money for ram. So is the minor frequency increase to 2400MHz. Get two 8gb sticks for way less than $200.

I think buying nvidia gpu's is definitely the best bet. A gtx 960 or 970 will do fine.
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Orfelius
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Orfelius » 20 Feb 2015, 17:59

To my knowlage 8 GB DDR 3 is better than some UBERPROMG gamer RAM. 16 GB is kinda excessive imo but could be a ok to upgrade in the future perhaps?

Nvidia just makes superior GPUs too.
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Jools
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Jools » 20 Feb 2015, 18:34

Orfelius wrote: Nvidia just makes superior GPUs too.
But they make bad chipset. Don't get a mobo with nvidia chipset.
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luckywaldo7
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Re: About New Computer

Post by luckywaldo7 » 20 Feb 2015, 23:26

When I built my pc I found these to be invaluable resources:

reddit.com/r/buildapc
https://pcpartpicker.com/
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Super Mario
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Super Mario » 21 Feb 2015, 01:02

Silentwings wrote:Image
This.
How do you know that senna is a linux user? I have played with him (a very long time ago btw) and he never mentions playing on a Linux OS.
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Jools » 21 Feb 2015, 01:43

Super Mario wrote: How do you know that senna is a linux user? I have played with him (a very long time ago btw) and he never mentions playing on a Linux OS.
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Isn't it logical to just assume he is?
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Re: About New Computer

Post by luckywaldo7 » 21 Feb 2015, 02:02

1. By spring/linux he means opengl

2. Universal desktop OS statistics are meaningless in an open source community, because it tends to be skewed toward using other open source software much higher than average (I.E. Windows usage among engine devs is 0%)
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Super Mario » 21 Feb 2015, 02:26

luckywaldo7 wrote: 2. Universal desktop OS statistics are meaningless in an open source community, because it tends to be skewed toward using other open source software much higher than average (I.E. Windows usage among engine devs is 0%)
That. makes. no sense.
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Re: About New Computer

Post by gajop » 21 Feb 2015, 03:10

The point is ATI used to have bad opengl drivers, so games like Spring and OSes like Linux which rely entirely on opengl work better with Nvidia.
And yes, it's likely there are more FLOSS users on a FLOSS site..
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Super Mario
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Super Mario » 21 Feb 2015, 06:09

gajop wrote:The point is ATI used to have bad opengl drivers, so games like Spring and OSes like Linux which rely entirely on opengl work better with Nvidia.
And yes, it's likely there are more FLOSS users on a FLOSS site..
Well not any more apparently after they got bought out by amd.
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Re: About New Computer

Post by Silentwings » 21 Feb 2015, 09:34

How do you know that senna is a linux user?
/ means or
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