smoth wrote:sorry about being unclear here: I mean because most o the kids these days don't have memories of arcades bringing gaming to a social experiece. In general when you are all in person people behave themselves a lot better or eventually some older kid kicks their ass.
I am saying that the further isolated people are the more social degeneration exists.
Mr. Bob wrote:So, essentially, you're arguing for non-online multiplayer? I don't see how this is relevant..
google diablo 3 no lan play and google about how people chose torchlight 2 over diablo 3 for the offline. It matters to a lot of people. yes I am saying that lan play is important.
Mr. Bob wrote:Your nostalgia for the past and your generalizations about "the kids these days" isn't really something I'd pull into play here..
but you did. for the sake of argument I'll cite the greater internet fuckwad theory with regards to kids. because I remember watching them getting their asses kicked in the arcades back in the day.
I remember the last time I played call of duty online. some kid came in and immediately blurted out with "I like to fuck girls in the pussy and ass." back in the day that kid would have never heard the end of it in the local arcade. but because he was online eventually I just had to mute his little ass. I think their social interactions having no consequence just some old guy online muting them is a bad thing for society.
smoth wrote:The game says "requires a Uplay account" I am ok with that, tons of games have loggins these days and honestly, I am annoyed by it but many of them have good reasons. Uplay was/is required, which means I had to have 2 steam-like clients running at 1 time. Meaning I had 2 sets of overlays spraying all over my screen. It drives me freaking nuts. On top of that crap I was running yet another piece of crap in the background. I didn't want that, it was not specified, too bad. Enjoy now having to not only remember yet another password but also having 2 sets of overlays. Now, I probably could devote some o my time to looking up how to disable thier overlay. That wasn't all. EVERY time I run the game I have to sit and wait for uplay to load, login and then run the game! Why should I have to do any of that? so I have to load steam to load uplay to login to play my game? WOW. That really pissed me off and I felt crossed the line.
was what upset me about it, had i know it would require me to RUN and install uplay I would have passed on it.
Mr. Bob wrote:So, you're angry that you have an additional overlay to play a game that hides your overlay? Or are you angry that you had to make an additional 2 clicks or so to get into the game? (The first time, of course, as all subsequent times it does it automatically.)
it still loads every time for me. I have to start up their app(what happen when I click the icon) and then run it.
smoth wrote:when I posted about it people argued that "well it did say I required a uplay account" and defended steam's lack of disclosure. WTF. I think as far as outside of these sort of things steam is one of the better DRM managements esp with their recent greenlight support.
your point is? I detailed the requirements, this image is seemingly mean spirited and condescending, I detailed the exact text you highlighted earlier
in the post.
smoth wrote:I'm not sure how this is in any way relevant. The nostalgia card, that is. I'm sure people in their 60s miss the days when you had to send someone a letter instead of text/email them. And, I'm sure their grandparents miss the days when you had to churn your butter instead of buying it at the store.
That is a misdirection, I cannot remember the fallacy and won't look it up.
Mr. Bob wrote:Yes, there are a great deal of places that have absolutely no internet service. In fact, the majority of the people on the planet probably have no access whatsoever.
We aren't talking about the majority of the people on the planet though, we're talking about the majority of the people who play a lot of games and make a lot of money for the people who make a lot of games. These people tend to have reliable internet.
I am talking about the state of louisiana's major cities, new orleans and baton rouge. I don't know about where you live or other people I can only speak to my experience living in this fetid swamp.
Mr. Bob wrote:How is this in any way relevant? You said "cheaper at a price" and then continued to mention a mix of nostalgia and business history.
The digital download takes away the physical location. The physical location has often times tangible objects. Sometimes thing you never expected unliked say the hone world of online sales. Like If I pull up amazon it'll have tons of suggestions based on prior orders. That is great but it also excludes a whole world o things that I might like. I don't know the thing I went to the store to but when I saw my first gundam model kit. Heck at the time I was fairly racist towards the japanese if I were to be brutal on myself. It was probably a medevil fantasy game. Yet because I went there and some employee had the idea that these kits were really cool and made the effort to convince a manager to put them on the shelf. MY LIFE was changed. The old shops were a wonderful place back in the day. Now, with digital markets, all these specialized products are shoved in my face on the steam page. the fact that they added the indies via the greenlight thing means that sometimes they might have those cool titles(don't starve was one of them) that I would have never found. but none of the cool figures. no movies, or comics JUST specifically video games and mostly the ones they want you to know about. but greenlight changed that part at least giving the litttle guy a shot. Does that explian it? if you still don't understand I'll give up but I wanted to give the concept I am trying to express another shot.
Mr. Bob wrote:When has this ever happened? Competition would effectively solve this issue. The only time that would be a problem would be in the case of a monopoly.
dunno. It was a while back I want to say. Maybe I am wrong, maybe it was a prank site. I didn't really care, like I said.
Mr. Bob wrote: What 24 hour online DRM games are you referring to on Steam? MMOs? That's a design choice for MMOs.. It'd be sort of difficult to play a game where the majority of the content is stored online to allow for massive online play without that content...that is stored online..
that was one of the issues people had with the xbox1. The requirement of login every 24 hours.
Mr. Bob wrote:As for the Florida reference, refer to my earlier statements. I'm not referring to the majority of people. I'm referring to the majority of people who buy a lot of video games. Not everything is going to wait on that.
florida, alabama, parts of georgia, misssippi, louisiana, parts of texas.
I don't understand the reference because I never watched the film. Being that we are on youtube links and you posting pictures with things circled in what I can only guess is sarcasm/irritation. Lets stop, I don't like what is happening, you apparently do not and all that will happen is escalation. I would rather stay on good terms with you but as we do feel too passionately with respect ours view. so I hope this post helps clarify it and we can both move on because all we are doing is bashing out heads into respective walls.