Hardcore anime fans

[Panda]

The Twelve Kingdoms
The Count of Monte Cristo Gankutsuou
Iria
Metropolis
Macross Plus
Hellsing
Vision of Escaflowne
Moribito
Shura No Toki

[Das Bruce]

THX for the replies.
Someone recommended to me a series called "deathnote"...is that any good?worth watching?

First half is very good, second half is still good but noticibly not as good as the first. Apparently the same with the manga.

GunGrave - Awesome, friendship/betrayal/revenge. Highly recommend.
Karas - Very pretty, complex but short. Recommended.
Planetes - Highly 'realistic', about garbage collectors in space. Recommended.
Spice and Wolf - Surprisingly entertaining for a psuedo-middle ages economic anime. Highly Recommended.
Xam'd - Lost Memories - Hard to follow at times, but high quality art. Highly Recommended if you don't mind slightly difficult plots.

[Zydox]

Here's the most recent series I watched... really liked it, though I have a weak spot for mecha...
Linebarrels of Iron

And one movie which I hasn't seen in this thread is A wind named amnesia where I liked the story...

Ohh... almost forgot one of my favorites... Voices of a distant star a 25min movie which I love... (and seems to be available on youtube)

[KDR_11k]

GunGrave - Awesome, friendship/betrayal/revenge. Highly recommend.

It's based on a videogame, the second game (GunGrave Overdose) is pretty good and fun too.

[Machete234]

When I watch animes i always think

"What is this all about?"
"Why does the hero look so gay?"
"Why do you always see girls panties"
"Are you supposed to take this serious or laugh about it?"
"Why do they all look european to be precise like gay europeans?"

The only movie I could watch entirely was ghost in the shell even though the heroine was naked for no reason in one scene but I didnt care.
Japanese people made it that explains 90%

[1v0ry_k1ng]

wait, guys, isnt anime terrible?

[Sabutai]

for lulz watch MD Geist.

[knorke]

i dont get it either.
why is every somewhat cool tank/spaceship/mech piloted by a human bambi in see through pants?

but i am willing to learn. so what would be a good series for a start?
I think only anime ive seen would be heavy metal F.A.K.K. 1 + 2 (was fun) and Hellsing (imo stupid but enjoyable to watch with friends etc)
oh and southpark and something about a jail in another dimension and people got melted by the tiiiiime poliiice.

I do not feel like googeling all the names without description.
Is there something like Warhammer40k meets Weird Tales?
Like tentacle monsters that are actually evil instead of just raping school girls. Some strange ideas are ok but if a tank is controlled by pressing by inserting a joystick god-knows-where just because it amuses some fans, thats just stupid.

[Noruas]

GUYS HOW CAN U GO A PAGE AN HALF WITHOUT MENTIONING NARUTO.




i don't believe.... it.

[knorke]

and pokemon!

[Master-Athmos]

Well for me a film is about telling a story. If that gets done with real actors or via drawings doesn't mean that much to me. That's part of why I like to watch animes - you don't just have stuff with a different cultural background involved being a diversion to the Hollywood movies and you especially can tell fictional stories way easier (as you don't have to spend millions for a company filling your greenscreens with real looking CGIs)...

I agree on that kiddified stuff where little kids maneuver war machines and stuff like that. I'm also no fan of those action movies based on women and camera positions always throwing underwear in your face. Still those just are some genres out of many so if you just watched those you must have done something wrong - switching the TV on at night probably will lead you to some softporn movies too but I guess that's not what you'd immediately connect to when thinking of "movies"...

One of the few things I accept pants in would be Great Teacher Onizuka because that series is just plain awesome! You have to watch it with subtitles of course because I think you cannot translate the great voiceacting which probably only works that well in Japanese (not mentioning that the english dub even didn't get Onizuka's first name right)...

Considering the latest posts: Don't forget DBZ (although I actually tend to like that especially the pretty much filler free DBZ Kai):

[Panda]

I agree with what you said about anime in general.

THX for the replies.
Someone recommended to me a series called "deathnote"...is that any good?worth watching?

First half is very good, second half is still good but noticibly not as good as the first. Apparently the same with the manga.

GunGrave - Awesome, friendship/betrayal/revenge. Highly recommend.
Karas - Very pretty, complex but short. Recommended.
Planetes - Highly 'realistic', about garbage collectors in space. Recommended.
Spice and Wolf - Surprisingly entertaining for a psuedo-middle ages economic anime. Highly Recommended.
Xam'd - Lost Memories - Hard to follow at times, but high quality art. Highly Recommended if you don't mind slightly difficult plots.

I'll have to check out these animes.

Here's the most recent series I watched... really liked it, though I have a weak spot for mecha...
Linebarrels of Iron

And one movie which I hasn't seen in this thread is A wind named amnesia where I liked the story...

Ohh... almost forgot one of my favorites... Voices of a distant star a 25min movie which I love... (and seems to be available on youtube)

These animes look great too. Also, if you liked "Voices of a Distant Star". You might want to check out some of Mokoto Shinkai's work. I wouldn't say that the plots of his stories are really very complicated or anything, but he always does good quality, dramatic work. He's one of my favorite anime directors and I have all of his available films. His other films include:

"She and Her Cat" (A very serious story told from a cat's point of view. I think that the girl in the story, the cat's owner, is dieing of some sort of an illness because they show a needle for medicine, she get's a sad phone call, and she disappears at the end of the story. It can be difficult to catch these clues in the film since it's told from a cat's point of view which is why I'm telling you about it.)

"The Place Promised in Our Early Days"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Place_ ... Early_Days

"5 Centimeters Per Second"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxKn5AwOTis
This is kind of depressing, but a still a good story.

[Gota]

Planetes-others have recommended this to me as well.
I started watching monster.

Well it seems to be a decent series but not perfect even from the get go...
It tries to be all serious and "realistic" in how it portrays the characters and the interactions between them but it fails at some points.
In general it seems characters have very extreme personality characteristics.
Hospital direcor is outright evil all about the money guy that is not at all ashamed of it and even flaunts it.
Doctor is a pure angel with a strong conscience.
Girlfriend,daughter of the rich director,is a greedy spoiled brat that thinks rich people are better than poor people and is not ashamed to admit it...
Just stereotypical ++ characters.
Some things are explained as if characters are narrating a story..like a very detailed explanation gets said by some character in a situation that didnt demand it,as if it was exactly that,a direct explanation to the viewers as oppose to revealing the issues through natural events.
Maybe I'm asking for the impossible but If you make a detective anime in modern times that is suppose to be all realistic and stuff than have realistic characters not some black and white steryotypes.
It's smart but doesn't go all the way,still very interesting and im probably gonna watch it till the end.

[HeavyLancer]

Armored Trooper VOTOMS is fun.

+1 to that, even though I've only watched the Pailsen Files OVA. Actually not a bad contrast to most of the Gundam series.

[Pxtl]

@knorke, machete, ivory

See Cowboy Bebop - it was made as a love-letter to American pop-culture. It's about jazz music and space bounty-hunters. No teenaged boys with spiky hair.

[HectorMeyer]

I like atmospheric, serious stuff like Monster and Ghost in the Shell, but storywise they are all not without flaws.

None of these serious movies/series manage to completely eliminate the Japanese "sillyness". I have this theory were the Eastern culture mastered aesthetics and the western culture mastered coolness and gritty realism. No matter how hard they try, the Japanese never manage to make truly serious, "realistic" stuff. On the other hand, westerners never manage to capture and display aesthetics the way the Japanese can.

[luckywaldo7]

I updated my post to be more descriptive.

None of these serious movies/series manage to completely eliminate the Japanese "sillyness". I have this theory were the Eastern culture mastered aesthetics and the western culture mastered coolness and gritty realism. No matter how hard they try, the Japanese never manage to make truly serious, "realistic" stuff. On the other hand, westerners never manage to capture and display aesthetics the way the Japanese can.

Interesting theory. A lot of the grittyness in western culture though, is I think a more recent development. Mostly in the last decade it has become cool to 'gritty reboot' almost every superhero series, and then some (A-Team lol, Sherlock Holmes wtf, Spiderman again omg, Karate Kid gtfo mai childhood ;_;).

[Zydox]

"She and Her Cat" (A very serious story told from a cat's point of view. I think that the girl in the story, the cat's owner, is dieing of some sort of an illness because they show a needle for medicine, she get's a sad phone call, and she disappears at the end of the story. It can be difficult to catch these clues in the film since it's told from a cat's point of view which is why I'm telling you about it.)

"The Place Promised in Our Early Days"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Place_ ... Early_Days

"5 Centimeters Per Second"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxKn5AwOTis
This is kind of depressing, but a still a good story.

Yeah, I've seen those too, though they were't as good as Voices imho

[Edible]

Putting in support for black lagoon and planetes both are brilliant.

As far as death note goes, its decent however it has one of the most annoying fanbases of anything ever.

[KaiserJ]

westerners never manage to capture and display aesthetics the way the Japanese can.

that was actually something very interesting that we studied in college in film class; the differences between cinema styles... even subtle things like framing, camera movement and pace are normally handled differently in asian cinema; not just in anime

of course in this day and age of east-meets-west, there is a lot of mixing of styles, so the line that dictates the difference between the styles is more about the approach of the director rather than where the film itself comes from.