My head hurts! Damn logic game

[SwiftSpear]

lava lamps

if you have 2 reds in a row after 1 or 2 blue your solution will be invalid, although it probably passes the test.

[TradeMark]

Now im starting to understand... feels like learning programming all over again. nice game...

[TradeMark]

Hmm, how come bridges makes it so much slower? o.o

conveyors/bridges: 33/2 - total time: 57
conveyors/bridges: 23/4 - total time: 58

theres 10 conveyors less but still its slower...

was fun to optimize, but not fun anymore when bridges makes it slower -_-

[aegis]

it's more fun to optimize for size than speed. just try to get the least number of parts possible while still passing all the tests.

[TradeMark]

I just noticed that conveyors doesnt take time at all.. makes sense kinda, as if it was electricity.

What if i try to optimize parts and speed...

1) conveyors/bridges: 33/2 - total time: 57
2) conveyors/bridges: 23/4 - total time: 58
3) conveyors/bridges: 28/1 - total time: 42

3rd case has 22% more conveyors than 2nd case, but it is 28% faster.
28-22 = 6, so its 6% more efficient, right? uh, idk anymore, i suck at math...

[KDR_11k]

It depends on the usage, if you have a ton of conveyors but they only describe parallel paths so that a given bot will only use a few of them they won't impact the time much. It times the total time spent in the machine for the predefined test bots (the randoms don't count).

[SwiftSpear]

I would love a sequel to this game. It's one of the most entertaining puzzle games I've played in a long time.

[aegis]

http://www.zachtronicsindustries.com/?p=710

another engineering game.

[KDR_11k]

Yeah but that one requires electrical engineering. I don't even have an idea how I am supposed to make a time-variant system without a clock.

[aegis]

circuit delay! several people in #hurr solved most or all of them iirc.

[SwiftSpear]

I couldn't figure out the basics... gotta spend more time on it. It seems a little less intuitive than manufactoria. Reminds me of working with VHCL

[aegis]

make sure to watch the tutorial video under help.

[KDR_11k]

The problem with the damn tutorial is that the text is hard to read and shows only very shortly.

EDIT: Okay, gate delay works, for reference the delay of five gates is equal to one bar on the verification tab.

[Google_Frog]

Awesome game.

I've played Alchemical Engineering and the Electronics one too.

[KDR_11k]

I didn't like the alchemy game, feels too much like work, not enough like finding creative solutions.

[Google_Frog]

I try to get the fastest time with Alchemy, you've got to be creative for that.

[Sucky_Lord]

showed this to my brother (he's studying maths at oxford, so he was really getting into it!) he was up for 23 hours playing it. he finally completed it though! :)

[KDR_11k]

I would love a sequel to this game.

Hm, does that mean you beat the Metatron?

[Wisse]

Just came to say that I love Manufactoria. Best game I ever played.

I've played for 10h or so hours till now, but couldn't pass few of the levels. Now I'm slowly starting to question my capabilities.
I'm gonna soldier on tho, even if it takes me 1 year.

p.s. this thing wasted my whole day, meant for study, like nothing -.-

[TradeMark]

p.s. this thing wasted my whole day, meant for study, like nothing -.-

Yeah, thats why i stopped playing it after i couldnt figure out some levels... waste of time if its too hard, its not fun anymore

Feels like: "here, use 1 and 0, now build a fucking computer. gogogogogogogo!!!"

Whats the fun in that...