Counter Strike banned in Germany

[Satirik]

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news.ph ... rike.phtml

WTF seriously ?

[Otherside]

oh lawd really just because some idiots go around shooting people because they have psychological problems doesnt mean they should point the blame at video games.

There just trying to find the easy way out.

Im pretty sure shootings/crime will be the same if not higher if they ban video games like CS

[PicassoCT]

Welcome to a country that has a Age Pyramid like a mushroom- therefore old, pre-computer-time, voters (and there prejudices) count more than whatever argument in any vote. Sinking wages? Yes. Sinking Pensions? No.
Open for new ideas. No.
Go backwards in History to the time where everything was better. Yes.
Open border, letting genious Foreigners in. No.
Stupifying Nationalism. Yes.

There is a pattern and all gerontocratic Nations (like Japan, Italy) show the same signs of decay.. so don┬┤t you take anything more out of it than warning signs.
In Germany.. they would warn you, not to become like Germany..

[Strategia]

Yes, let's ban all games involving anything remotely similar to violence! And send anyone who plays them off to rehabilitation camps to rid them of their violent tendencies!

Seriously, if this gets through they're gonna feel it in the economy. Games = big business, banning violent video games = all you have is Disney and the Wii.

[Master-Athmos]

Well currently politicians make it easy for themselves by saying a) Video Games are bad and b) We need the new censorship laws for the internet to "fight" child pornography...

Both of these will make you very popular in the broad i.e. high numbered group of older people making you win this year's elections. It's totally of no importance that video games are not more than maybe the final snowflake causing loose an avalanche or that the censorship laws are useless as it's a 5 minute job to trick them technically and they have 0 effect on child pornography. It's currently a shame what bullshit is spread by both the media and the polticians which threw in their mind control machines a couple of months ago (as the end of a long ongoing movement leading to THIS)...

But apart from that I think the linked article is wrong. I know of no censorship of Counter Strike despite some that are in discussion. All there was were some towns trying some last minute rejections of the rented locations. Those claims wouldn't have stood any chance but recently there were two cases of rather big parties which then were cancelled. If this law actually would have been passed it wouldn't just be about Counter Strike too so I guess they are making things up a bit to be more interesting...

[Neddie]

And nothing of value was lost.

[PicassoCT]

Culturcritic Zyanopessimists - they would hang themselves if all CS Kiddies of the World would went out into the Street, taking part in there social lifes.

Seriously, nothing of value is lost during computer gaming. That is a major point, there are no ressources wasted, no conflicts fueled by a Gamer staying at his (little, underfurnished, lonly) home. And think on the hardcore Gamerz, to how little consum they can be reduced, besides there maschinez - and software (which is steamed/OS)..

So if we get 2 billion more worldcitizens who want to enjoy western lifestyle, making that one ressemble a virtual monk existence is quite a sollution.

[Regret]

And nothing of value was lost.

Except another freedom. Who needs freedoms, they have no value. Let's just work, eat, sleep every day and nothing else.

[KDR_11k]

I was going to say it got indexed but I just saw that CS Source is still listed on Steam (indexed games must not be visible to minors) so it's probably an error.

[Otherside]

And nothing of value was lost.

ignorant comment really.

If they ban CS this could lead to the banning of other fps's/games in general

so yer something of value was lost (and CS is a good game in its own right)

[Argh]

If they ban CS this could lead to the banning of other fps's/games in general

Exactly. After all, they're all "murder simulators".

[Snipawolf]

They won't ban a game. They can ban public display of a game, which is what they've done. If they start banning games, we'll just have to hope that there really are enough serious gamers to do something about it.

[KDR_11k]

And nothing of value was lost.

ignorant comment really.

If they ban CS this could lead to the banning of other fps's/games in general

so yer something of value was lost (and CS is a good game in its own right)

*headdesk*

Look, "banning public display" means indexing, that mechanism has been in place for longer than videogames exist and plenty of games have been indexed. Doom was indexed (apparently now revised into a 16 rating because standards change as time passes), Quake 1-3 were indexed, Half-Life was indexed, UT 200x was indexed, Far Cry was indexed (the last three got localized versions with reduced violence released that weren't indexed). C&C got some hilarious censorship, Fallout was less funny, Turok a bit more which defeated the whole point of the big reveal at the end ("OMG, the Campaigner is a robot!" well, in the German version, EVERYTHING is!) and I still love how Uprising replaced infantry with robots in every respect except the blood splattering when you run them over (though the sound for it is crunching metal). This isn't the start of a slippery slope, this is just the way it's always been.

Plus CS:S is still available on Steam (they aren't allowed to list indexed games) so there's a good chance this report is WRONG.

[rattle]

Censorship in germany is ridiculous... you got to see beat up hookers and dead prostitutes in the afternoon TV shows but the Indy movies playing in the evening got their best moments cut out.

[Master-Athmos]

We'd just need games finally having the same status as movies and i.e. them being a piece of art. It currently isn't like that which makes them vulnerable for all kinds of censorship. There also e.g. mustn't be any swastikas in games here because that would be unconstitutional. In movies they are allowed because that's "just" art and ok then...

[Apollo]

i wonder how they cencered wolfentein 3d in germany

[Master-Athmos]

You get the answer in the red box here...

http://www.3drealms.com/wolf3d/

[KaiserJ]

im sure there's at least one person out there who uses counterstrike to quench their unending thirst for hobo blood and childrens tears, by denying him his game you unleash him on an unsuspecting world.

[Neddie]

They already have censorship in numerous forms, this does by no means introduce a precedent. Before you decry the insensitivity or the ignorance of my comment, think for a moment about the context. Why cry about a third rate game when you're not concerned enough to question the other censorship problems in Germany? You were inspired to discuss this merely because something you'd heard of was targeted, but you don't really seem to care about the issue, or at the least you are uninformed.

Alternatively, you could have interpreted my initial comment as the humorous side note it was originally intended as.

[PicassoCT]

It is a good country to be born in and leave as fast as you can..

Only good thing is that the enormous debts nearly castrated the incompetent Goverments..