NE1.. thinking of upgrading to the AMD Phenom ?

genblood · Post by **genblood** » 21 Nov 2007, 11:20

Anyone thinking about upgrading to AMDs new processor
and mother board combo?

I've been waiting for AMD to release this new CPU for months
now. I'm planing on getting the Phenom 9500, a MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+,
2 SAPPHIRE 100216L Radeon HD 3850 256MB and a Ultra X3 1K PSU.

Hopefully by xmas I'll have all the parts to build my new system ....

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 21 Nov 2007, 11:41

Sounds nice except it means you have an Ati graphics card.

Harbinger · Post by **Harbinger** » 21 Nov 2007, 12:09

I'd prefer a core2duo and an 8800gt.

Edit:Whoops I meant core2quad.
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HeavyLancer · Post by **HeavyLancer** » 21 Nov 2007, 12:34

I want to get the Phenom X4 9700 with a Gigabyte 790FX DS5 motherboard. Adding on to that 2 Gb of DDR3 1066 RAM and either an XFX 8800GT 512Mb or a Radeon HD3870. I'm leaning towards the 8800GT because Nvidia> ATi.

Now all I need is the funds. Time to get a job

CarRepairer · Post by **CarRepairer** » 21 Nov 2007, 16:40

Yes I want to upgrade as soon as AMD makes a special mobo using intel and nvidia chips.

AF · Post by AF » 21 Nov 2007, 16:52

Look at it this way, you can spend X amount of money on a top end AMD cpu that competes quite well with what itnel ahd out this time last year, say a core 2 duo e6600.

Or you can spend the same amount on an intel mobo+ cheap core 2 duo chip and get better performance with money to spare..

Face it, AMD are at the very least 9 months behind intel. Those new penryn processors make the phenoms look like daisies, especially with the speed gained from overclocking, who knows what potential those new hafnium transistors have?

So for the moment, it's intel all the way. I just hope AMD manages to catch up over the next year.

genblood · Post by **genblood** » 21 Nov 2007, 17:07

AMD dropped the ball BIG TIME .... on this quad cpu issue ...
They should have taken 2 of their 65nm amd64 X2 chips and
stack them on third chip to off load the L2 and L3 cache. This
could have been a good choice for a cheaper quad or tri CPU
setup...

They can still do it, but most likely they wouldn't ....

IMHO ... I prefer AMD CPUs over intel ... On graphics ..
I like both ATI and Nvidia ....

ATI for windows ....

Nvidia for linux ...

imbaczek · Post by **imbaczek** » 21 Nov 2007, 17:33

phenoms will be performance/price competitive after Xmas... until then, a Q6600 is a better choice.

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 21 Nov 2007, 21:39

AMD has said they are boosting linux support so ideally we'll get an ATI on CPU with and AMD chip and have linux support before public release... with maybe some onboard phase-change solid memory on board as both ram and storage memory... at this future point my inner-geek will be able to die happy.

HeavyLancer · Post by **HeavyLancer** » 21 Nov 2007, 23:53

AMD isn't aiming for the performance market with Phenom at the moment.
Also, the 4 cores, one die design is very good, and is much more efficient and emits less heat compared to an Intel quad core. Therefore, they might make for a good little overclocker.

Also, they are going to be cheaper than anything Intel can pump out, so that helps too. It makes them much more competitive than they were a couple of months ago with the Athlon X2s.

AF · Post by AF » 22 Nov 2007, 00:01

AMD isn't boosting linux support at all theyre just giving the opensource community a load of spec documents and a skeleton framework and saying "off you go! go write our drivers for us". While the open source community are indeed better at this than AMD is, it reflects badly on an AMD that cba to write linux drivers at all.

As for the performance market, right now intel offers much better value for money despite the new cpus. Phenom was initially designed to prevent intel getting the upper hand. Now its purpose is to stop AMD going bust. I'd wait untill next year to see if AMD can catch up before intel unleashes nehalem.

Such a sorry state of affairs. My first PC was a K6, my second a duron 1400, and my laptops a turion64. But intel has the better offering atm, so core 2 duo all the way. Sure the phenom is a native quad core but that's not much good when there're non native quad cores that run much faster for much less cost.

Harbinger · Post by **Harbinger** » 22 Nov 2007, 00:08

HeavyLancer wrote:is much more efficient and emits less heat compared to an Intel quad core.

O Rly?

HeavyLancer · Post by **HeavyLancer** » 22 Nov 2007, 02:37

If you can provide proper citation, then I stand corrected.
Those 'statistics' don't show what specs the test machine is, what power supply it is using, and the load conditions. I refuse to believe those statistics unless you provide some proper context for them. Posting random statistics will get you nowhere with me

But I am open to the idea that AMD is phail. It still wont stop me from buying an AMD quad core.

imbaczek · Post by **imbaczek** » 22 Nov 2007, 12:37

It's not "fail". It just isn't competitive. It's better than most K8 chips, but not better than equally priced Intel silicon.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... i=3153&p=1
http://www.hothardware.com/articles/AMD ... 0FX_RV670/
especially
http://www.hothardware.com/articles/AMD ... 70/?page=6

genblood · Post by **genblood** » 22 Nov 2007, 13:49

AMD got 2 of the 3 new CPUs out the door ...
Right now, it's up to the consumer what happens
next...

On the chipset front ... 790 series is a step forward and
with the new line on graphics cards. I plan on having
a crossfire setup with 2 3850s ...

In the coming weeks ... I'm hoping to see reviews about
quad setups for 4 graphics or the dual chip setup ..

Spring RTS Engine

NE1.. thinking of upgrading to the AMD Phenom ?

NE1.. thinking of upgrading to the AMD Phenom ?