Are terrorists THAT stupid?

Are terrorists THAT stupid?

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Are terrorists THAT stupid?

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Here's one example. Gas stations. Everyone uses gas stations, often an an almost daily basis. There's no security whatsoever. It would be a simple matter to make a coordinated, simultaneous attack on a thousand gas stations across a country. Do it in the middle of the night, and maybe one out of a thousand of the attackers would be caught. Set time bombs for 6 hours at a small number of other gas stations in well-concealed locations. Finally, use car bombs at a bunch of other ones once the frenzy to get gas starts. There would be riots and, for a time, virtual economic collapse since nobody could get to their jobs. The stock market would crash. You name it. All from one well-planned attack.

...And yet they target airlines, which about 90% of the world's population will only use once, if at all.
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maybe there are not as many terrorists as the politicians trying to tell us :?: :?: :?:
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i doubt the islamic terrorist organisations have enough trained terrorist men and financial power to get 1000 people into USA with pipebombs, there are other conflicts in the area such as israel's exsistance in the heart of arabic countries, and guerilla war in chechenya, along with internal fighting.

hitting USA:s gas-stations arent that much of a priority compared to these.
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Pipe bombs or any number of other explosives can be made with simple supplies you can get anywhere. And getting a thousand people into the country would be totally simple.
hitting USA:s gas-stations arent that much of a priority compared to these.
Well that's the point, the agenda the "terrorists" have does not appear to be consistent with the evil boogeyman image the US government has created, or else they're vastly smaller in numbers than the same government would have us believe.

If they were actually trying to destabilize the country they ought to be hitting things that are actually important to us, the loss of which would... you know, terrify us?
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I think they are soo backwater that they do not realize what to attack. They look for symbols. However, hitting two large civilian buildings doesn't impress me.

I live in Louisiana and in our capitol city we have one of the largest petrol refineries in the world! Yet those jackass terrorists cannot get to it? No odds are it is because they are funded by the Saudis and frankly the Saudis don't want their shit blown up. Because Exxon is bank for them. So I conclude the terrorists are poofters who cannot attack a real SOFT target... guarded by Louisiana rednecks!


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There are far easier ways to hurt us than gas stations. Thank Guantanamo Bay for the fact that we haven't been hit hard again. Also, exactly what you mentioned, they're busy fighting us there so they don't have the resources to hurt us here. We keep killing off their high-level people so they have to find new commanders.
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I have to wonder if the attack on Iraq was actually orchestrated for that very purpose, Decimator. Keep them busy in their own country rather than have them attacking us here. It would make me actually think Bush and his administration have more than 50 IQ between them. I think I'd be overestimating them though...

The problem is, unless the terrorist are dumber and smaller than we've been led to believe, they should have the smarts to know that they're just being distracted.

I realize that gas stations aren't the very easiest target, but if I actually made a list of the things any person could do to create mass hysteria without getting caught the FBI'd probably show up.
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Re: Are terrorists THAT stupid?

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*nuked*
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Decimator wrote:There are far easier ways to hurt us than gas stations. Thank Guantanamo Bay for the fact that we haven't been hit hard again. Also, exactly what you mentioned, they're busy fighting us there so they don't have the resources to hurt us here. We keep killing off their high-level people so they have to find new commanders.
LOl i know what u mean, if it wasnt for gitmo those chinese uighurs would be tearing our shit up lol
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Post by Caydr »

You're right, attacking sensible targets is something that only happens in video games and movies...

Meh. As it is this'll probably get locked because it's such a weird thing to post. It just struck me all the sudden how illogical the situation is, when North America and westernized culture in general is so incredible vulnerable in so many obvious ways, and yet nothing's happening.
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There's a difference between being distracted and fighting for your life. :P

Also, if they do manage to get us to leave Iraq, they'll be able to set up a Sharia law state similar to Afghanistan.
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it doesn't take much to get into exxon's plant it is huge and my family has worked there for 3 generations. I remember one explosion that happened on christmas knocked out windows all around the plant and it was loud as hell. It only takes a few pipe settings to cause things to go boom there. Also, Louisiana has a few large pumping stations on the coast that bring in a large portion of the nation's oil. It reads like a C&C campaign. Personally I have seen the pumping stations all of my life and only regard them as cool industrial equipment but yeah easy to blow up. and hasn't happened yet.
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There are 2 kinds of islamic people out there.

1) people who live pretty much like we do, women have rights etc etc, qur'uan is a guideline, not something you should kill yourself for. example country: Egypt. Theyre usually rich, and dont want to get blown apart to get 70 virgins in imaginary world, they'd rather go to a local nightclub.

2) real islamists, who try to keep the religion as "pure" as possible, these people are usually from non-developed countries and ruled by local warlords/sheicks/imams. These are the poor, non educated people, how many professors have blown themselves up for the cause of islam?

The islamists see themselves being attacked from all sides, somalia is a battleground involving islamists, and during their control there , that area actually had some order, so they are not as bad as your making them be.

islam has always had a agressive political system, but theyve always been fair.
in the middle ages, populations in the areas taken by christians were usually converted to christianity, by death.

islamists offered you 2 choices, convert and live or die.

they are not as bloodlusted as western media makes them be, they have been fighting numerous enemies in their own land for the past 70 years.

and where do you think the people would get enough money to fly 1000 people to USA, hell they can barely afford living in their current area. The sheiks maybe rich but im sure none of them actually have that much money.

if i were a sheikh in the area i'd rather train them to fight guerilla war in chechenya to get the land back, or fight the israeli who are constantly bulldozing islamic towns.

SENSIBLE TARGETS:

1) country in the other side of the fucking planet, that has little made little agression to the islamist world compared to jews and russians and is actually helping most of the islamist countries out financially.

2) a country named israel that was formed IN THE MIDDLE of islamic world and is pushing islamic people away with very agressive policy

you think bush is dumb and should get out of iraq and everyone in the middle east is a raghead with a rpg that is trying to get american blood on their hands, ggnore.
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Exactly, there's an other example. Our cities are full of targets that can be attacked in so many different ways. Just think of supermarkets, they'd be like a terrorist playground.
you think bush is dumb and should get out of iraq and everyone in the middle east is a raghead with a rpg that is trying to get american blood on their hands, ggnore.
I hope that wasn't aimed at me. Actually I'm nothing like that, except for the "bush+co are idiots" part, but the entire world not self-censored by american media agrees with that. I actually stopped watching 24 because I was getting sick of how they were portraying that, basically, anyone who wasn't white was a baby-eating terrorist.
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why not just attack pentagon/white house with the 1000 terrorists instead of shops?
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Why a suicide, these guys lack logic..

They are fucking slaves to their own beliefs..

That's pathetic, I believe in God and all that, but I won't let him get in the way of what I want..

Wait, he can't do that.. Can he? God practically promises free reign except for the 10 commandments... He can't stop me from doing something, he just controls the consequences.....
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Caydr wrote:
hitting USA:s gas-stations arent that much of a priority compared to these.
Well that's the point, the agenda the "terrorists" have does not appear to be consistent with the evil boogeyman image the US government has created, or else they're vastly smaller in numbers than the same government would have us believe.

If they were actually trying to destabilize the country they ought to be hitting things that are actually important to us, the loss of which would... you know, terrify us?
how many armed and trained terrorists do you think are out there?
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Sleksa wrote:why not just attack pentagon/white house with the 1000 terrorists instead of shops?
Because they'd need guns in order to even hope to be semi-effective, and even then the place is sealed fortress.
Sleksa wrote:how many armed and trained terrorists do you think are out there?
That's my whole point, attacking such simple things requires no training or equipment whatsoever, just hatred. Given that they've been effectively "at war" for how many years, I think they could probably come up with 1000, or heck even 100 men who hate america.

I don't know how much it would cost to get X number of people into the country, but I'm sure they could manage it. They can afford guns, ammunition, bombs, etc as it is.
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I always thought there were three type of Islamic people. The two listed above and then the third group which has all the shades of gray in between.
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Yes.

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