Spring Ladder

Spring Ladder

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BrainDamage
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Spring Ladder

Post by BrainDamage »

as some has rumored around, the ladder is back.

Thanks to koshi, Tobi and all others that helped.

This ladder works trough a special bot: LadderBot, pm to it !ladderhelp to get the list of commands.

how to play a ladder game:
  • list the available ladders with !ladderlist, and get the id of the ladder you plan to play
  • use !ladder id to get the bot to join your battleroom
  • (optional) use !ladderchecksetup in the battleroom to check that the current settings are compatible with the ladder
the bot will spectate the battle, and submit the score to the main bot

How to check player scores:
!score ladderid will show scores for all the players in the ladder
!score playername will show scores for given player in all ladders
!score ladderid playername will show scores for given player for given ladderid

TODO/Help needed:
  • needs volunteer admins responsible for single ladders
  • fancy ladder website, none of the ladder developers know how to make one, requirements: web developing skills ( you can use any language, php, python, etc ) and SQL knowledge
  • lobby/autohost integration
  • clan support
  • tournament support
  • AI ladder support
for more info: http://springlobby.info/projects/springladder/wiki/Wiki
Last edited by BrainDamage on 01 Feb 2010, 22:26, edited 2 times in total.
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Licho
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Re: Spring Ladder

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Offered help with the website.
Satirik
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Re: Spring Ladder

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nice work now we need a website to see the ranking etc
Andrej
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Re: Spring Ladder

Post by Andrej »

I was trying to take a look at the source but it looks like some files are missing.
They are listed in the .gitignore file, does that count as a bug or are you using code with obscure distribution license/whatever?
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BrainDamage
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Re: Spring Ladder

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hoijui
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Re: Spring Ladder

Post by hoijui »

is it a submodule?
can he also just use this?:
git submodule update --init
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koshi
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Re: Spring Ladder

Post by koshi »

it is not
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Licho
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Re: Spring Ladder

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How are disconnects/desyncs handled? Ideally it should ignore games that desync or wont end with gameover.
Dave the brave claimed he kicked the ladder bot and it gave him loss in revenge :)
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DavetheBrave
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Re: Spring Ladder

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IT DID!

AND THEN when I asked googlefrog to delete that game, the ladderbot stopped working completely!
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Re: Spring Ladder

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i like bots with a sense of dark humor.
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Tribulex
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Re: Spring Ladder

Post by Tribulex »

I can make a pretty website!!! I really need to do some more webdesign to put on my resume. ME PICK ME!!!!!
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SinbadEV
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Re: Spring Ladder

Post by SinbadEV »

Is that planet wars thing dead?... ladder and it seem close enough that they could both be handled by the same bot.
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Licho
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Re: Spring Ladder

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Planetwars can be brought online at any time, its just offline atm. It features ELO based ratings - for teams and 1v1 games, scores and list of "awards" gathered from games as well as details about all games played.


Springie also has ELO calculation which works similar to ladder rating - it works in teams and FFA games too - tracks all games played on springie-type autohosts in one central database running on springrts.com Its intended goal is team balancing.
Here are its top players http://springie.licho.eu/top50.php


Ladderbot cannot be easilly integrated with planetwars since planetwars needs 2 way communication - it must change modoptions to transmit data about planetwars structures and extra units to game and then uses autohost to relay realtime data back to planetwars (about killed units, deployed PW structures etc)
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Licho
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Re: Spring Ladder

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d_b wrote:I can make a pretty website!!! I really need to do some more webdesign to put on my resume. ME PICK ME!!!!!
They rejected my offer for help, and I do this professionally sometimes, so good luck :)
"Any language" in the post asking for help is a blatant lie..
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Re: Spring Ladder

Post by Agon »

Is it possible to get informations about running ladder bot games. (Which ladder game runs atm. , who plays the game and after the game who won?)
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Re: Spring Ladder

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Spring Ladder site template. Pretty simple and basic as it's my first ever web design I've ever done. Would be nice to get some feedback on it and what I should do to it to make it usable.
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Satirik
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Re: Spring Ladder

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xhtml 1.1 strict only !!!
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AF
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Re: Spring Ladder

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shush he did a good job and it appears to be good markup, he used a css based layout, and he even followed the spring logo spec to the letter!

The only 2 criticisms Id level are:
  • Instead of <center> use margin: 0px auto; to center things
  • The top menu seems to cut off a little too harshly, if you could add in a 1 or 2 pixel line at the top to soften the divide
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Re: Spring Ladder

Post by very_bad_soldier »

Looks nice but are you serious about using literally a latter as icon? How about a cup or something? (well, call me captian obvious) The latter looks like craftsmen or something :mrgreen:
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Re: Spring Ladder

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Satirik wrote:xhtml 1.1 strict only !!!
Your fight is with DreamWeaver, not me :P
AF wrote:
  • Instead of <center> use margin: 0px auto; to center things
  • The top menu seems to cut off a little too harshly, if you could add in a 1 or 2 pixel line at the top to soften the divide
I tried adding "margin: 0px auto;" to my #Footer section but it didn't seem to do anything :? Halp!

And yeh, I agree the nav bar isn't too great and I did actually add a top and bottom border in but because of the backing colours they aren't too noticeable, I'll defo change that.
very_bad_soldier wrote:Looks nice but are you serious about using literally a latter as icon? How about a cup or something? (well, call me captian obvious) The latter looks like craftsmen or something :mrgreen:
Well first off it's "Ladder" :mrgreen:
And I thought the ladder worked quite well tbh, I don't really understand how you got a craftsman out of it :shock:

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