Really, I think Saktoth's been given enough grief on that one pic. To be honest I'm not sure I would have bothered continueing to answer to those responses...[/quote]SeanHeron wrote:Maybe because like he's said what he wanted to highlight/point out was something different ? [quote="Saktoth"]The tabula shot is really not a great shot to show off the spherebot texture, but thats not the point: the point is to comment on the addition of the halberd and the backpack as design elements, on whether this is enough to differentiate it from the regular spherebot, whether they in themselves look good, etc. Tabula is a good map to show this because the darker, muted, red lightning makes the glow on the halberd and backpack more noticable.
He only got grief because he repeatedly dismissed perfectly legitimate crits. People don't give you grief when you try to improve, the reason people post things here is for feedback, if you ignore all the negative feedback because you think it's perfect then you're gonna get people giving you crap.
And in order to defend himself he posted a different model on a different map from a different angle with better graphical settings. A pretty lol comparison if you ask me. And his 'map lighting is bad' excuse was dumb because A) why would you post pictures of your model from a map you say has terrible lighting? And B) the picture from another map was just as noisy.
So yeah, if you're not gonna listen to crits (unanimous ones at that) don't post. At least give a reason why you don't wanna change it rather than going with variations of "you're wrong it looks good".
@Kaiser - it's his work, not ours. He posts it for crits and suggestions and praise, not for us to do his work for him. And calling a forum full of people "do-nothings" is excessive to say the least. Just because we don't post our work all the time on the forums doesn't mean we don't know what we're talking about. There are a lot of people who do and have done tons of art-related work, much of it Spring related, including modeling and texturing, and just because they don't make post stuff for spring doesn't mean they don't have experience and knowledge to contribute. In fact, deluding yourself that you know better than other people is the reason why so many people fail at things. The idea that ANYONE at all can give valuable input to your creations is the foundation of being a good artist, dismissing it because you think you have higher or more informed opinions makes you stagnate, not to mention an asshole. Never EVER assume other people don't know what they're talking about. You don't know them or what they know or what they've accomplished.
And giving detailed crits shouldn't be necessary to someone like Saktoth who is at least moderately experienced, he knows enough to know what 'noisy' means and how to fix it. Use softer shades, less sharp lines, more block colors and less detail work(this is an rts after all), etc, pretty obvious things.
If you don't want to work on a model anymore that's fine and I can respect that, hell I do it all the time. But just SAY SO, don't go on with excuses and crap, giving lame reasons to not fix it. Acknowledge and respect other peoples inputs and criticisms, even if you're not going to conform to them. But guess what, if the majority of the people on this forum don't like it, there's a good chance the majority of the people playing the game won't like it either. It's in your best interest to please the crowd.
Ok I went off on a huge rant there, but this is a gigantic pet peeve of mine and I HATE it when people simply dismiss criticism, especially when it's the same from several sources.