Joined: 07 Feb 2005, 21:30 Location: Cheese factory
I don't mind (and neither should you) that ZK is grabbing exclusive rights, banning SL and any other lobby that doesn't want to play along. It's their right to control their own game. Why run another lobby if you are going to play ZK anyway? ZK lobby has the best support for ZK and that is unlikely to change.
<insert insult/> Banning SL pretty much means banning linux until other cross-platform lobbies become usable. It may be their right to do that, and if they do I would certainly stop playing it until it's resolved. And all for what? Juggler? Sigh...
the !join feature has been requested by many lobby users to force their friend to join some games, or to organize tourney, tasclient has a group option to allow the !join commands coming from anyone (and it also supports passwords : !join someone password), what the lobby really needs is just a PRIVATEDATA, so any user can send private commands to anyone, and we wouldnt need to wait years to get lobby protocol updates, privatedatarooms could also be added to make help broadcasting commands to registered users
But congratulations, you convinced me,this community is definitely not good place to waste my time. Spring will sure be better without my "hitler" ideas and abuseable additions.
"The Community" isn't against you, your ideas, juggler or anything of the sort. There are some people that may not like nor want juggler, but I think the main argument in this thread wasn't what you were proposing but how it was delivered.
Regarding your idea, you really need to get a consensus for something that is mandatory to be implemented, and for that hoijui was suggesting meetings and similar. The !join thing was probably agreeable by most, but asking that it gets implemented by <some date> or you'd ban lobbies isn't the way to go.
Until it got implemented in the server, or everyone implemented it in their lobbies, you should've really made it optional. You're smart enough to be able to create a !supports-join or something that would've assured temporary compliance within !join compatible lobbies.
There is probably some misunderstanding about the meaning of 'ban'. In this context Licho is talking about banning SL from springies because SL effectively breaks the juggler system. Those in the "spring is a game" mindset probably think he wants to ban SL from spring.
so lets say 19:30 CET? i think most other lobby devs are in CET (except aegis, which is somewhere in the US, and.. i guess he will not answer in this thread anyway). 19:00 on sunday might work for aegis... just a wild guess though.
so current proposal is 19:00 CET sunday. if it is not ok for you, please make an other suggestion right away.
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