Plans for writing a new rts engine

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 20 Oct 2006, 14:10

Unles you were joking SpikedHelmet, your a dick. Why the hell would you do that? I mean.... urggg, I just can't even comprehend why someone would type that.

aGorm

Noruas · Post by **Noruas** » 20 Oct 2006, 20:24

Call the new RTS Off-Spring!

BvDorp · Post by **BvDorp** » 20 Oct 2006, 22:03

SpikedHelmet wrote:I will personally hack any commercial product based off of this and distribute it free of charge.

LOL

Now there's a OS minded person. plz, just try to understand what GPL and LGPL stands for.

diggz2k · Post by **diggz2k** » 20 Oct 2006, 22:25

So you are taking pretty much all of the mtr ideas and windows to linux and designing the new one with those in mind? I hope you get all of the MTR's.

This will be great Good Luck.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 20 Oct 2006, 22:36

SpikedHelmet wrote:I will personally hack any commercial product based off of this and distribute it free of charge.

And myself and others will see to it that you pay for your crime. You really are nothing but a bit of trash.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 20 Oct 2006, 22:42

So instead of paying 2 bucks for a game, you would hack it and waste 20+ hours of life trying to hack the code I would make, then distributing said code..

Whatever..

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 20 Oct 2006, 23:28

SpikedHelmet either got weird humour or likes to make a fool of himself...

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 20 Oct 2006, 23:59

I'm hoping it was weird humor, cuz selling a game/mod/whatever for more than 5 bucks is retarded..

And anyone who can't cough up 5 bucks for a game is a cheapskate

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 21 Oct 2006, 00:28

Snipawolf wrote:I'm hoping it was weird humor, cuz selling a game/mod/whatever for more than 5 bucks is retarded..

And anyone who can't cough up 5 bucks for a game is a cheapskate

Honestly 10 bucks should be reasonable if it's being sold in stores (And for that you need a distributor anyway).

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 21 Oct 2006, 00:40

I'm probably going to do it by online downloading, who would distribute a 14-15 year old's game.. Probably not many.. However, if I happened to find someone who would do it, I probably would take 'em up on the offer..

Provided they could deal with the problem of hackers, etc..

Das Bruce · Post by **Das Bruce** » 21 Oct 2006, 04:14

Snipawolf wrote:Provided they could deal with the problem of hackers, etc..

Refer the JC's previous post.

AF · Post by AF » 21 Oct 2006, 18:41

Spiked helmet, that was very dissapointing, and its comments like that that're giving our community a bad name.

Suffice to say that your comment is not representative of the OpenSource mindset.

imbaczek · Post by **imbaczek** » 22 Oct 2006, 01:12

I'd strongly suggest reevaluating the 100% full rewrite decision if you want to release in an acceptable (i.e. non-glacial

) time frame. Practice shows that full rewrites don't work so well (OTOH, IMHO nothing could be better than going ogre3d, a truly great decision) so at the very least please do some maintenance for spring after 0.73b2 and maybe make sm3 map format work?

AF · Post by AF » 22 Oct 2006, 01:38

sm3 works, jelmer just forgot to package the sm3 shaders with the installer.

mehere101 · Post by **mehere101** » 22 Oct 2006, 02:16

... So in practice it doesn't work

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 22 Oct 2006, 02:17

Monkwarrior · Post by **Monkwarrior** » 22 Oct 2006, 09:05

Excellent idea.
It is the only way to invest in a great future for this community and all it's dedicated modders. I would suggest not to compromise too much with holding on to old structures just because modders "are used to those". On the other hand modders provide the vains thru which the community blood is running so some sort of middle way should be found (migrating paths etc).

Good luck with this great idea.

Monk.

PauloMorfeo · Post by **PauloMorfeo** » 22 Oct 2006, 10:02

imbaczek wrote:... Practice shows that full rewrites don't work so well ...

My bet is that you just invented that information...
You are entirely wrong, that's for sure.

imbaczek · Post by **imbaczek** » 22 Oct 2006, 12:13

Your bet is your bet, I'm talking from experience. A rewrite is very prone to be itself rewritten several times, since it's simply impossible to design *everything* right no matter how many times you start from scratch. (And by that I mean what I previously misleadingly described as 'don't work well'.)

IMSabbel · Post by **IMSabbel** » 22 Oct 2006, 12:46

Monkwarrior wrote:Excellent idea.
It is the only way to invest in a great future for this community and all it's dedicated modders. I would suggest not to compromise too much with holding on to old structures just because modders "are used to those". On the other hand modders provide the vains thru which the community blood is running so some sort of middle way should be found (migrating paths etc).

Good luck with this great idea.

Monk.

Yeah, it really sounds like they are going to take over the whole trashheap of legacy cruft, which is contraproductive at best.

Hint: get a generic model format, for example. Something with an existing toolchain. It would be shame to see something like the upspring drama ("day 134: still fucks up textures and makes noobs whine") on the new engine again.

Its a 1000 times faster to convert something INTO well supported format, than from one into your pet-format of choice.

Spring RTS Engine

Plans for writing a new rts engine