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PostPosted: 12 May 2012, 17:41 
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Would it be possible to make a map that is like a tunnel inside a mountain? Spring doesn't use 3d-heightmaps, so I don't think you can make maps with things such as bridges, because the altitude component has just one dimension.

But, you could make a map that is juts a tunnel, no bridges, no roof etc. Here's a sketch of such a map:

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But is there a way to prevent aircraft from flying over the walls? Set a maxheight for air units?


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PostPosted: 12 May 2012, 18:18 
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I had thought of exploring this theme... more in the overall setting and appearance of the map. Like you were in a giant (and with giant robots, REALLY giant) cavern. I was going to make a cave-y skybox, dim the lights a lot and put in crystal features and all that. But, it didn't make sense for CT so I never did it.

I'm not sure if a more tunnel-y approach could work, as you proposed. But, maybe.


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PostPosted: 12 May 2012, 18:19 
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Jools wrote:
But is there a way to prevent aircraft from flying over the walls? Set a maxheight for air units?

Nope :\


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PostPosted: 12 May 2012, 18:26 
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One option would be to disable air units completely then, as xta does on some maps 'because of low atmospheric pressure".


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PostPosted: 12 May 2012, 18:27 
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or can you make a gadget that filters all units for air units, and when their y-coordinate exceeds some value it sets the y-value to under that level? Would probably wreck pathfinding, but hey, what do we have to lose :)


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PostPosted: 12 May 2012, 18:30 
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I thought of having a feature that when an explosion occurs high enough, or a projectile hits the "roof", then it would trigger some kind of cavein event. You could have stones to fall etc...


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PostPosted: 12 May 2012, 18:47 
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Jools wrote:
One option would be to disable air units completely then, as xta does on some maps 'because of low atmospheric pressure".

this is probably a reasonable option.


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PostPosted: 12 May 2012, 19:02 
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Smoth....

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Jaburo map? :lol:


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PostPosted: 12 May 2012, 19:45 
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So it's impossible to create zones in which planes cannot fly - i.e impassable region for planes? that sounds like an engine request

Two ways of solving it in lua:
1. Destroy or move units that attempt to go to no-fly zones - ugly and fights with pathfinder
2. Create your own 2D map which contains no fly zones, and with it a lua-based pathfinder that creates a group of sub-orders(commands) for air units (just consider that the no-fly zone should be extended a bit further from the hills, in order to accommodate for air maneuvers.


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PostPosted: 12 May 2012, 19:48 
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Gajop, aircraft don't use the spring pathfinder stuff.


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PostPosted: 13 May 2012, 07:31 
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For this idea to work a game would have to be designed to work for maps like this. Otherwise it is at best a lolmap. Even if you block aircraft there is still a problem with high altitude vlaunch missiles that many games like to use.


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PostPosted: 13 May 2012, 09:23 
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Yes, it's for that I thought about making the cavein gadget, that explodes projectiles of high altitude.

But the real problem is that a map is a map is a map, it shouldn't behave like a mod. Therefore if you disable units etc you are affecting the part of the game that should be handled by the mod, and that's bad.


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PostPosted: 13 May 2012, 15:19 
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game adds support for cave maps DONE


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PostPosted: 24 May 2012, 10:38 
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This has been an annoyance for me for a while... that being said, it's not really an unusual standard for RTS. The same is true for both Starcraft 2 and Supcom modding. Still... I really wish we could claim to be the guys pushing the RTS market forward.


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