All of zwzsg's points. I agree with them.

I think the most interesting thing to happen with Diablo 3's release is that the genre is going to shift from "Diablo clones" to "action RPGs". That is, Diablo's fumbled with the community and theres a good selection of other titles on the horizon.

Randomization, as a feature, is great. And frankly I feel the escapist guy just uses whatever he can to create an "entertaining" rant. And if not, he's not the kind of person I want to hang around.

There was a bit of variety but nothing major, certainly nothing on par with the crazy shit you get in an EDF game.

was the pc one any good?

Not really. It has a butchered difficulty balance, crap weapon variety (basically they just recycle every weapon like 5 times for different gear levels), bullet-spongy enemies and nerfs the loot element to hell by level gating all of it. Oh and it has grind for the level ups. There are some upsides (online play, multiple player classes) but overall it's a crappy game. They don't even have the decency of letting you fight the alien mothership.

In Diablo 3 you will eventually have a character that can kill the bosses within minutes and one shots everything else (see this Athene guy). Once you are at this point there is very little left that will keep you at it. You will know all the skill combinations to get through the game the quickest way and it boils down to pressing a couple of buttons, kinda like an arcade game. The way is the goal but if the goal you are working towards to is so obvious and bland how much fun can you have... maybe I'm just a pessimist and realist but for me it is like this:



Often even before the point of seen it all you can expect what is left there to see and what you are very likely to to see is basically what you have been seeing in past games but in a new dress. So the excitement never really kicks in (for me). I wish I was 12 again not so biased due to past experiences.

I wouldn't compare it to an arcade game, those are usually short and varied.

Diablo 3 is a pay to win game...
I cant imagine how they will manage to keep this element out of the pvp when its released.
I bought D3.
I have 2 level 60 characters(max level) and I have finished it on all difficulty levels and every single step is just a gear check.
All you need to do is farm/buy gold and you can destroy any mob or boss without any skills except the ability to click a mouse button.
This game requires no skill and if you do have a bit more brains and reflexes than the average player those small extra maneuverings and micro wont be able to boost your actual game performance because of the constant lags.

It is really a 7-7.5/10 game and only because all the visuals and sound are nicely polished and feel endearing.
This is not Lost Vikings or Warcraft 1 or 3...
Do not buy this game.

[Stop being a dick - mod]

-0.5/10? that makes sense

7-7.5/10

In other words, a 7 to 7.5 out of 10. Stop trolling.

He was not trolling it was just a play on how that would have been mathematically resolved.

so basically 6.25?

I think I get it now. Rattle wasn't taking a stab at Rumpelstiltskin, he was making a joke on Rumpelstiltskin's post saying that it came out to -0.5/10, and saying that that makes sense, because the game sucks (in his opinion).

I understand it now. That isn't how it reads at all though.

Rattle you should be more careful how you punctuate (or lack thereof in this case) your sentences, so that they don't get misunderstood.

better be carefull there youngsters else you make admin mad with jokes he does not understand
seen it happen in many forums :) :D

[Stop being a mod - dick]

stop issuing moderator warnings or I may get banned and I'll tell my mom then and she'll kick you in the balls

So apparently some linux users have been getting perma-banned for running with WINE. Not cheating, just trying to run a single-player game on a linux distro. Something to do with wine appearing to modify the game somehow, but they've been pretty unapologetic to players who have reported the problem to them.

Epic drama thread: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5978861022

If there is anything simultaneuously more hilarious and enraging than Blizzard's handling of the problem, its the comments from some of the other players.

Here is a taste:

One of my favorites:

Solid Gold

Please don't do that here.
You're posting random internet trolling and OS wars and attaching that to Blizzard.
In my past experience, Blizzard games have worked nearly flawlessly on linux in wine: wc3, sc1, wow. I would be surprised if they haven't at least tested it in wine, even if they're not offering official support for it.

Basically, wow had Warden too, yet I and many other linux users never got banned for playing it - mostly because we didn't think linux would magically protect us from cheating.

There probably aren't even linux users, they are just fools masquerading as linux users to try and get out of a ban.

READ COMMENTS HERE: http://games.slashdot.org/story/12/07/03/141208/linux-users-banned-from-diablo-iii-servers
You'll see many references to what I've mentioned being supported, and that's about as pro-linux & open source as you can go.

PS: You can hate Diablo 3 all you want, since imo, it's a shitty, easy grind, but don't attach linux hate to that.

Cool your jets, pilot. I know, I play SC2 with WINE just fine. I'm not anti-Blizzard trolling, perhaps I should have been clearer that I know it wasn't intentionally anti-linux, but was more noting how hilarious some of the comments were.

Although I doubt that having their games work on linux is because of any special love for linux. It just happens that they make their games work on opengl also to run on mac. Running on linux just kind of happens ofter that.

I'm not gonna claim it's an amazing game... but I seem to be reading people saying the game gets easier the further into it you go, where as from everything I've seen, it's the opposite. The game is PAINFULLY easy for the entire first play through (before you are forced to the next difficulty level) and then it doesn't really start to get fun until it's too late to care about the story.

I'm down with hatred of the auction house just as much as the next guy at the end of the day. So I'm not really complaining either way.